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1989 Camry ALL TRAC

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#1 ·
I have a 1989 Camry ALL TRAC and cannot find rear struts, strut mounting............ is there a reasonably close replacement??


My 89 Camry ALL TRAC has 110,000 miles..... 4 cylinder 2L........daily driver...... How can I get an idea on what this old girl could be sold for??

Much Appreciated

jvhvm@us.ibm.com
 
#2 ·
Look on rockauto, they have what you're looking for just make sure that it says All-Trac in the description. As far as value that will be determined by more than mileage, such as auto or manual, body condition, interior, and option package.
 
#4 ·
I just tried to replace them. The only compatible strut I can find is for a Celica All-Trac with the chassis code ST185. The Camry strut is no longer made, and neither is the strut from an ST165 Celica. There are also no after market replacements, in part because KYB who made the Toyota part stopped making them. The Celica All-Trac uses the same rear end configuration and will mount up fine with everything on the car.

These are the parts I used, from a 1991 Celica All-Trac ST185

http://www.toyotapartszone.com/oem/toyota~absorber~assy~shock~rear~rh~48530-20680.html

http://www.toyotapartszone.com/oem/toyota~absorber~assy~shock~rear~lh~48540-20600.html

Note if you do this I feel like the rear end is a tiny, tiny bit lower than the front unloaded, and it may have a slightly reduced capacity for cargo; I know I had about 240 pounds of bagged dirt laid out in the trunk through the cabin and it was visibly lower. The handling of the car may change slightly as well, but I can't judge because I had blown struts to being with, plus I performed other mods at the same time that altered the setup of the rear end. But again, these WILL mount up to your SV25 Camry All-Trac without any need for modification to the car.

Failing that, a shop should be able to use your current struts as a core to custom make a new set as long as they don't have rust damage; they cut the out strut out above the bottom "hat", and mount a new cartridge. However, it probably won't be much cheaper, if it is at all, then getting the Celica struts above.
 
#12 ·
Looking to replace my 1988 Camry Alltrac Rear Struts and the link to toyotaparts is no longer live. Does anyone have any up to date (2019) rear strut part leads?

I just tried to replace them. The only compatible strut I can find is for a Celica All-Trac with the chassis code ST185. The Camry strut is no longer made, and neither is the strut from an ST165 Celica. There are also no after market replacements, in part because KYB who made the Toyota part stopped making them. The Celica All-Trac uses the same rear end configuration and will mount up fine with everything on the car.

These are the parts I used, from a 1991 Celica All-Trac ST185

Note if you do this I feel like the rear end is a tiny, tiny bit lower than the front unloaded, and it may have a slightly reduced capacity for cargo; I know I had about 240 pounds of bagged dirt laid out in the trunk through the cabin and it was visibly lower. The handling of the car may change slightly as well, but I can't judge because I had blown struts to being with, plus I performed other mods at the same time that altered the setup of the rear end. But again, these WILL mount up to your SV25 Camry All-Trac without any need for modification to the car.

Failing that, a shop should be able to use your current struts as a core to custom make a new set as long as they don't have rust damage; they cut the out strut out above the bottom "hat", and mount a new cartridge. However, it probably won't be much cheaper, if it is at all, then getting the Celica struts above.
 
#6 ·
Tried 3X to reply to the responses but they don't seem to get posted.
I've tried 5 differet parts sites (one in Japan)...they let me order but then send a note saying the part is discontinued. I'm in Burlington, Vermont.... the dealer price is $500 per strut not including mounts. and I'm not certain they can get them either.
 
#8 ·
As others have stated, and you've discovered, your options are limited. Basically you have the following options.
-Pay limited stock dealer prices.
-Order ST185 shocks.
-Convert the shocks to cartridge type inserts (guide here http://www.y8s.com/celica_gone/suspension.html).
-Switch to coilovers of some type.

IMO it depends on how long you plan on keeping the car - I'm probably going with coilovers or the insert mod when mine go out.
 
#10 ·
It really shouldn't matter if it is All-Trac or not in terms of wear; the loading probably isn't much different, and despite the different part number I really have a hard time telling the difference in the pictures I can see. Aftermarket are hit or miss I agree. If they make them I'd probably go with a Raybestos Professional or Moog. The KYB are made in China now I think and have a mixed reputation, but mine have been fine, Monroe is probably serviceable too.

The only reason I lean towards saying "yes" to replacement unless money is an issue is because it's one of those things you're best off doing while the strut is off the car. If it starts to wear out a few months later you'll be paying twice for labor as the strut will need to come out again. If it's a DIY job and you don't mind spending the time it's another story.

But then if the car is low miles and the only reason it needs struts is they are leaking they might not need replaced. I did mine simply because my car was in such rough shape, it was a case of better safe then sorry. Condition of the rest of the car is the big decider I guess; if the car has high miles, is rusty, and overall pretty well used I would replace them.
 
#13 ·
Looks like the ST185 parts may be out of production now too... You can look up the part numbers on www.toyodiy.com (make an account to see pictures) and inquire with www.amayama.com and other suppliers and see if they can get parts - shipping will not be cheap though (from overseas with Amayama, at least).

Likely you will be doing something semi-custom, sadly. That is, if you don't want to go to full adjustable coilovers.

-Charlie
 
#14 ·
Looks like the ST185 parts may be out of production now too... You can look up the part numbers on www.toyodiy.com (make an account to see pictures) and inquire with www.amayama.com and other suppliers and see if they can get parts - shipping will not be cheap though (from overseas with Amayama, at least).

Likely you will be doing something semi-custom, sadly. That is, if you don't want to go to full adjustable coilovers.

-Charlie
I'd be interested in full adjustable coil over options as well. What kind of modifications would need to be done?
 
#18 ·
I am running CX Racing ST185 coilovers on my All-Trac. They can be found for around $800. They have a fairly soft spring rate and when set to a softer setting ride pretty well for a lower end Coilover. To compare I have a set of BC Racing Coilovers on my Subaru and these are actually far more comfortable if that is what you are after. I don't have them set very low either to be fair.

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