im guessing its a typo

 

I dunno about that

 

huh.. wierd. 4cyl dropped from 160 to 154. im not so sure about 6cyl, but it seems like it dropped 10hp.

 

huh.. wierd. 4cyl dropped from 160 to 154. im not so sure about 6cyl, but it seems like it dropped 10hp.

Ok, here they are


04-05 Horses

SE-157-160
LE-157-160
XLE-157-160
STD-160

SE V6-225
XLE V6-210
LE V6-210


06 Horses
SE-154
XLE-154
LE-154
STD-154

SE V6-210
XLE V6-190
LE V6-190

Its like we are going back to 2002!

 

wow 6cyl dropped up to 20hp! if its not a type-o, this sucks and eventually will make '04-'05 the best gen5 camry performance wise.

 

wow 6cyl dropped up to 20hp! if its not a type-o, this sucks and eventually will make '04-'05 the best gen5 camry performance wise.

u got that right

 

Hmmm.......my brochure saids it punches 160 HP, so I'm sticking with my 160 HP. But who cares, my vvt-i emblem gives me a extra 10 hp.

 

Read the notes.

4-cylinders: In certain reas, 4-cylinder automatic models are equipped as Partial Zero Emission Vehicles (PZEV). Equipment causes nominal reduction in horsepower (from 160-154 hp to 151-145 hp) and torque (from 163 to 161-160 lb.-ft to 158 lb-ft). Comes with emisions warranty of 15 years or 150,000 miles from the date of first use, whichever occurs first. Please refer to the Owner's Warranty information booklet for detailed information on vehicle coverage.

V6: Rating achieved using regular fuel.

 

So I wonder if you get about the same power if you use Premium unleaded on the V6 as '05 models?

:sosad:

My dad had a gen 3.5 4-cyl. Same thing....That car only had 125 HP, which was down from the gen3.

 

It's strange. The Solara uses the same engines, and the 2006 stats still list the Solara's 3.3 at 225 hp.

 

It has to be some kind of a weird typo, either that or Toyota's press release about the 2006 Camry being unchanged from 2005 is wrong.

 

So I wonder if you get about the same power if you use Premium unleaded on the V6 as '05 models?

:sosad:

My dad had a gen 3.5 4-cyl. Same thing....That car only had 125 HP, which was down from the gen3.

Premium gas on a car that was designed for regular gas causes a reduction in power, not increase. Unless the car can advance timing on its own past its factory specifications. At least from what I understand.

And I thought it was the other way around. Gen3 had 125hp, Gen3.5 had something like 133hp due to some slight revisions.

 

Just because the Solara and the SE camry has the same 3.3L 3MZ-FE engine doesn't mean that the hp/torque specs must be the same.

Little modification to the PCM and intake would easily de-tune/tune an engine.

And just my two cents, sometimes OEM's must sacrifice performance to meet stringent government fuel economy standards and other requirements.

 

that's weird....loss of HP? dang. i want the 225 HP engine =O

 

Guys, read page 42 of Motor Trend (Aug 2005):

"The Society of Automotive Engineers (SAE) recently revised the rules for measuring horsepower and torque and introduced a new standard for certifying said numbers..."

Overall, makers of cars, trucks, vans, SUVs etc. may voluntarily undergo the new standards so the horsepower ratings will more than likely drop. It's the same engine, but different numbers.

"The point of the revision is to account for new engine technologies and to reduce the opportunity for liberal interpretation."

The first vehicle to be tested to the new standards was GM's Chevrolet Corvette ZO6 with the LS7 V8. Under standard testing, the horsepower was 500. Under the new standards (called "SAE Certified") horsepower was rated at 505, a 5HP difference.

Overall, this "certified" rating is supposed to be more accurate.

"Manufacturers committed to reporting accurate, representative numbers all along won't be affected by the changes. Conversely, any manufacturer that lowers its output ratings in the near future will be under suspicion of having gamed the system."

Therefore, anyone that lowers output figures significantly basically means they were lying to us all along.

"Inviting a neutral third-party SAE witness to certify an engine's output is the surest way to dispel doubts and win consumer confidence...The certified output must be within one percent of the dynamometer output...but by certifying an engine the manufacturer guarantees all production engines will produce within two-percent of the rated output (Europe allows five percent deviation."

So that means all engines will be proven to have similar horsepower (so the company can't claim one number when in reality you have less horsepower).

If that's the case, Toyota is going the SAE certified route with the 2006 Camrys.

 

And I thought it was the other way around. Gen3 had 125hp, Gen3.5 had something like 133hp due to some slight revisions.[/QUOTE]
No, the gen3.5 actually had less power. it had to do with some additional OBD-II equipment and even the federal emissions models had two catalysts.


You're probably thinking about the gen4 and 4.5. gen 4 had 133 HP and the gen 4.5 had 136 HP.

 

I am very proud of my GEN4 V6 XLE with 190hp

 

It's strange. The Solara uses the same engines, and the 2006 stats still list the Solara's 3.3 at 225 hp.

Just because it uses the same engine somewhat means nothing.. Look at the Nissan VQ engine and everything that's thrown in, each car has dif. HP and TQ rating...

I am very proud of my GEN4 V6 XLE with 190hp

I would say ditto, but then I remember I supercharged mine

 

that's amazing......so i wonder how they're testing the engines now. VVTi not kick in? lol