Go to the dealer!

 

Ok, i'll bring it to the dealer. Just so I know what to tell them, does anyone know what the actual problem is? If I dont know what's wrong myself, they can easily say "we cant find a problem" or "it's normal" or something.

 

not the engine... worse ..the torque convertor or transmission..

be polite but be persistent with the dealer....hope it happens when they drive it..dio not except BS that it is normal.

 

whaat?? the torque converter or transmission?? Is this a common problem? I can't believe it! its only got 10K miles!

 

Welcome to Gen 6 Camry. It's more common than you can imagine. A simple Google search will verify this.

 

Exactly how much vibration are you feeling? You drive a four-cylinder Camry, it's not going to idle silently and vibration-free like an LS430. A little vibration is normal. The V6 is better in that respect but all engines will vibrate a little while idling and in gear.

 

It's a slight vibration that I can feel in the steering wheel and when I lean my head against the headrest. Sometimes the vibration feels a little stronger than other times but the vibration doesn't feel horrible. I'm just concerned because sometimes it doesn't do it and other times it does. It's a brand new car and I've never felt this type of thing in other cars I have driven.

 

same thing happened to mine, they said it was some sort of carbon build up that caused it. the dealer did whatever they did and it was smooth and quiet like a baby again for some time. but it just started doing it alil so i plan to take it back

 

"Normal". My V6 idles fairly roughly at around 32K now and I don't really care anymore.

 

The original poster is talking about a 4 cylinder camry!

 

i was driving it last nite and it seems to happen when the heater or ac is on.

 

It's an I4.. The added strain from the AC/heater will cause more vibration at idle.

 

ok now im confused. some people say take it to the dealer, some people say its normal. I need to know if it's normal or not so when I do go to the dealer, they won't try and screw me or tell me its "normal".

 

You'll always be confused when you ask about an obscure "problem" and get every Tom, Dick and Harry's opinion.....

 

It is not normal, and do not let them tell you it is normal, if they do , take it to another dealer...

Do not be confused..many people mix up V6 and I4 in this forum when talking about problems.

 

ok, i'll take it in and see what they say. is this a type of problem that will get worse over time or cause other problems to arise?

 

My brother's 08 had a similar problem at 25k...we took it to the dealer and surprisingly it would dissappear as the rep took it for a drive. After it started to vibrate again he took it to the same dealer told him to drive it with my bro sitting beside and lo and behold the vibrations were back. They said that the transmissions firmware needed to be updated and there is a moisture build up near the transmission which needs to be cleaned up and resealed..all done by the dealer under warranty. So the lesson learned..everytime u feel there is a problem with ur car take it to the dealer as soon as possible till ur warranty runs out!!! P.S. His camry is an I4 too!! They don't make camry's as they used to before.

 

100 bucks says its the strain from the A/C.

I remember this topic from a while back...I tried to search for it.

There were a few of us that mentioned this for the I4's.

 

Is there anything the dealer can do? Will they increase the idle speed or flash the ECU? Mine shakes like crazy. Sometimes it's so bad I'll pop the trans into neutral apply slight pressure on the accelerator pedal.

Thanks.

 

You know what, I started the car this morning while it was pretty cold. As i drive off and stop at a light still in gear, there is a VERY SLIGHT vibration in the wheel and seat. Sometimes the idle will dip just a little (as if it misses) and level out again.

 

most cases its caused by some carbon buildup on the throttle body butterfly and a bit of gunking in the IAC. My Camry will run smooth as glass without the A/C running. Once switched on the extra strain accentuates the normal vibrations of the motor. Now if it stalls out, that is a different story.

 

In the case of a dirty throttlebody, should I just use regular carb cleaner or throttle body cleaner and just spray the hell out of the throttle body? should I do this without the engine running?

as far as the IAC, is there a thread showing how to clean this?

 

well since you don't have a carb, i would recommend throttle body cleaner, or just get a can of sea foam deep creep and do all sorts of things with it. you need to clean the front and back of the butterfly and the edges of it.

 

Well, my 2009 4 cylinder 5speed manual camry has had an intermittent rough idle just about since new. I understand that a 4cylinder is not going to be as smooth as a V6, but my RPM will drop to about 550RPM (stopped with clutch depressed), run rough for a few seconds, then sometimes catches its breath and repairs itself. This happens intermittently, needless to say it is worse with the AC on.
I have had the throttle body cleaned a few times to ensure this is not a maintenance issue, I complained to Toyota, wise guy service rep said I don't know how to drive a manual transmission and blew me off.
A Toyota service tech told me that these new throttle by wire models have no IAC valve in the throttle body, I'm guessing that makes the idle tougher to control. I'm thinking there is a problem with the original ECU programming/mapping causing this.
I would definitely continue to complain to dealer/Toyota, make sure to take the service writer/tech for a ride to ensure they experience the problem. Continue with the complaint process outlined in the owner's manual to make sure there is a paper trail in case of failure/problems after the warranty expires.

 

"wise guy service rep said I don't know how to drive a manual transmission and blew me off. "

I would have asked this wise guy why a car at idle has anything to do with anyone's ability to drive a manual transmission.

Mike

 

The deck was stacked against me even before we began. I followed the Toyota arbitration process completely, the last step is a meeting between me, the wise ass Toyota service rep, and some "arbitrator" chosen by Toyota.
I was complaining about the 4 cylinder engine that knocks like a worn out Vega for 5-10 minutes during a gentle warm up, was told this is "normal" and that I am just not up on the latest engine technology! The erratic idle was blown off in a similar fashion, and it was evident that the "impartial arbitrator" was in Toyota's pocket. All I was asking for was a partial extension of the powertrain warranty in case one these symptoms created a failure after the original warranty ended, I didn't even get that.
So, I have learned that Toyotas are no swiss watches, and won't be buying another one, that is for sure.

 

I really have to pay attention to the thread start dates on these things I saw the first post "10k on 2009" and was like "Whaaaaatttt?? 10k on a 7 year old car?!" No.

73caprice, as a 4 banger Toyota owner for 8 years now, I can tell you they do run rougher than the other variants. My '09 is auto, but I have a '97 Tacoma 4 cylinder manual as well. Both have a rougher idle than other vehicles I have owned. I've had the rpm drop a bit low at times as well when idling, but have never had any real issues from it.