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Amazing Mileage on my Camry SE Trim (basic not hybrid)

8.3K views 56 replies 21 participants last post by  toy&lex  
#1 ·
I have an SE 2018. When I drive in city I get around 39-40mpg. Highway up to those numbers you see. I don’t understand how because it’s the basic SE trim. Not hybrid. After 30000 miles my car started becoming so much more economic. I floor it way too often and those numbers look like 39-40mpg. In city I’ve dropped 31-34mpg but because I was hammering that pedal.


I’m planning to get an AEM cold air intake and I know that’ll get me more MPG. Idk how much though. And I’d like to get catbacks like on the XSE.

But I wanted the XSE v6 but with this gas mileage it’s hard lol. I love more power but I’m enjoying the fuel economy so much. I use premium fuel and again it’s the basic SE trim. Just wanted to share the excitement lol.
 
#3 ·
Those numbers look amazing too though!

Yea, my tank takes about 14 gallons as well. Another weird thing, when I first had it it would only reach about 440 miles per full tank and could push it up to 464-484. But now after I’ve noticed these changes on my mpg I also noticed my car gets an avg of 520 miles at a full tank.
 
#13 ·
I have an SE 2018. When I drive in city I get around 39-40mpg. Highway up to those numbers you see. I don’t understand how because it’s the basic SE trim. Not hybrid. After 30000 miles my car started becoming so much more economic. I floor it way too often and those numbers look like 39-40mpg. In city I’ve dropped 31-34mpg but because I was hammering that pedal.
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I’m planning to get an AEM cold air intake and I know that’ll get me more MPG. Idk how much though. And I’d like to get catbacks like on the XSE.

But I wanted the XSE v6 but with this gas mileage it’s hard lol. I love more power but I’m enjoying the fuel economy so much. I use premium fuel and again it’s the basic SE trim. Just wanted to share the excitement lol.
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I think you probably have the Toyota Dynamic Force (2.5L?) engine. This newer design is supposed to have over 40% thermal efficiency which translates to better gas mileage than earlier engines.
 
#15 ·
I have an SE 2018. When I drive in city I get around 39-40mpg. Highway up to those numbers you see. I don’t understand how because it’s the basic SE trim. Not hybrid. After 30000 miles my car started becoming so much more economic. I floor it way too often and those numbers look like 39-40mpg. In city I’ve dropped 31-34mpg but because I was hammering that pedal.
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I’m planning to get an AEM cold air intake and I know that’ll get me more MPG. Idk how much though. And I’d like to get catbacks like on the XSE.

But I wanted the XSE v6 but with this gas mileage it’s hard lol. I love more power but I’m enjoying the fuel economy so much. I use premium fuel and again it’s the basic SE trim. Just wanted to share the excitement lol.
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You already have a very good high flow air filter from the factory. Upgrading probably will not help. There are different types of air filters based on the model of your car. I bought a filter for a 2.5 LE. Same size, different density. On my SE 2.5 it runs quieter with no mileage difference. I have had up to 56 mpg in the Sacramento Valley at 65mph. Mostly 39+ hwy which is fine for such a large car.
 
#16 · (Edited)
For those of you with I4s that are getting 40+ (or especially 50+) MPG per trip, please post a pic showing the average speed and trip time. I'm tracking this info for my own car (for science!) and would love to have data from others as well. I'm also measuring it the old-fashioned way to see if the numbers match what the car is telling me.

I've been wanting to start a thread about this actually because it's fascinating to me how easily many of us are beating the factory MPG ratings.
 
#17 ·
Dont be fooled by the Average MPG by the computer. I too can achieve 50 mpg. But when you go fill up at the gas tank, there is no way the math will be 50 mpg. The best I had ever gotten is 40 mpg. That is using miles divide by gallons. That is 1 mpg more than factory mpg specs. Unless you get gas that has no ethanol + grandma driving style, you can probably get 40+ mpg. Not 50.
 
#25 ·
So the video for K&N filter above compares with a dirty or cheap air filter, which speaks to performance degradation from restricted air flow. Knowing enough about differential control systems, and about ECU mods using AF tables, I can safely say no factory program compensates for added air flow, just restricted air flow.

Want better performance? Check and replace air filter with a quality one regularly.
 
#26 ·
So the video for K&N filter above compares with a dirty or cheap air filter, which speaks to performance degradation from restricted air flow. Knowing enough about differential control systems, and about ECU mods using AF tables, I can safely say no factory program compensates for added air flow, just restricted air flow.

Want better performance? Check and replace air filter with a quality one regularly.
If you watched the video you’d see that he compared it with a brand new OEM filter and a brand new 3rd party filter. The 3rd party and the K&N both showed increases over OEM. He also acknowledges the reduced performance of the dirty filter.
 
#27 ·
I have 20,000 miles of test records of K&N vs. factory air filter on my Honda motorcycle; every fill-up, every mile. The bike has >50k miles on it now. The bike experiences a 4 - 5% (I'm not looking at the spreadsheet right now) mpg penalty when using the K&N air filter. I used to use K&N air filters all the time in a lot of vehicles. I like the idea of reusing rather than adding more to the literal mountain a few miles from me which is the dump (no, really; it's 40+ feet high, and it started as a big hole a few years ago). I couldn't record a difference in mpg in any of those, but it's there and easily repeatable in this bike, just from swapping the K&N back and forth with a factory filter.

Don't bother pretending or listening to those who pretend a computer-controlled vehicle can't experience a difference in mpg from air filter type. They can and they do, according to real data. I don't know quite why this vehicle experiences the issue and my others didn't. Might just be the small magnitude of the difference. Doesn't matter, it's real.
 
#31 ·
At local Toyota dealership here in Mazatlan seller man tells me how amazed he is on how Camrys 2.5 (non Hybrid) give better mileage than smaller Corollas and Yaris (non Hybrid), he whispers about this as a secret. And since Camrys are very low sellers here in Mexico compared to Yaris and Corollas very few people realize this. Mine Camry LE gives me 24 mpg in town and 45 mpg on longer trips, amazing!
 
#32 ·
I believe the responses have established that the info on that computer is not the actual MPG. The 2020 Camry SE claims 39 MPG as the top end - if they had test data to make that higher (that they could substantiate) they would call it higher. YMMV. Fill the tank, reset the trip meter. Drive at least half a tank, refill until the pump clicks off. Don't squeeze more than that in. Calculate miles driven on the trip meter / gallons put in tank. Use the decimal points provided for best accuracy. Do this at least three times on the same route with as much "same style" driving as possible. There is you realistic MPG. Winter blends versus summer blends of gas will give you a slightly different MPG. And the obvious like tire air pressure, weight in the car, all that.
 
#35 ·
I would be tickled to get 39 or 40 MPG. My 2009 2.4L gets about 26 right now. I have steep grade changes for a good distance both directions on my daily commute (about 100 miles round trip a day) so that drags the rate down a bit. I also need to change my AF/O2 sensors as they are setting me to run rich sometimes. Think my CAT is not as efficient due to the oil consumption for so long. In the plans is to put in a new CAT and sensors. I am hoping that will get me to be more like 29 or so consistently (I get right above 28 at times). The fact sheet only lists 31 as the top end I believe.
 
#40 ·
My first comparison of actual MPG vs what the computer is measuring shows they are very close so far (0.2 MPG). I do about 70% city driving and 30% highway.

Trip: 416 miles
Gallons to refill: 14.0
Measured MPG: 29.7
Dash MPG: 29.9