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While finishing a 5spd swap, I figured I would do a test run on gears while still had it on blocks.

It seems to shift through the gears fine but the right axle is not turning. Is this normal behavior?

Could somebody please help me?
 
Stop the right hub from turning and the left will rotate. It's normal that's how a differential works.
 
That's how a normal open diff works. That's not how a limited-slip diff works.

Chuck
Hmm.... Didn't kentwilli just say he did a 5spd swap? I didn't read anything about an LSD installation. While its sitting up on blocks, this might mean alot of things. Maybe the right axle has a bad wheel bearing holding it back, or maybe a frozen caliper.... first thing to check would be to stop the free spining axle from turning and see if the other side starts wirling around.;):D
 
Hmm.... Didn't kentwilli just say he did a 5spd swap? I didn't read anything about an LSD installation.
The post I replied to said that "differentials" worked that way, which would
mean ALL differentials, and I was pointing out that it wasn't true for an LSD.
In fact, this behavior difference is the easy way to check to see if a vehicle
has an LSD.

Heck, I don't even know if an LSD is available for the Camry.

Chuck
 
I knew someone would come in and nitpick and bring up a limited slip tranny. :lol:
 
Discussion starter · #7 · (Edited)
I pressed a wooden block as hard as I could against the spinning rotor and even used a c-clamp to pinch the pads and still could not get the right wheel to turn, however nor did I get the left wheel to stop. How much friction do I need? Could it be that I need even more initial friction to overcome the momentum? I am tempted to jam the lug bolts with a pry-bar against the concrete but I am afraid of breaking something.

The axle and hub on the right side were both operational before the swap. rotor is wobbling free from brake pads.
 
Oh oh... time to start asking some more questions... Did the transaxle appear to function properly before you installed it? That is did you spin the input pinion, and check it's action in gears, neutral etc. If you put the car in gear, and shut off, does spining one input shaft, make the other one turn the opposite direction? Did you check out/open and inspect, the transaxle and differential assembly at all before installing it?

This is definitely odd, and suggests something is wrong. Camry's never came with LSD's, to answer one question. (although it was possible to swap in an assembly from certain Mr2 models):facepalm:
 
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I did not think to open it before installation. Unfortunately begining to think you are right. I may have to dissassemble again. I think there must be something stuck in the gears. Maybe i should have covered the axle holes while in the gravel junk yard.
 
Silent Runner gave some good suggestions.

I'd also add - make sure your driveshafts are inserted fully. Try to pull them out - you should not be able to pull it out by hand. The passenger side (right) shaft should be locked with the c-clip in the bearing retainer to make sure it's fully inserted, as it can be deceiving. I'm assuming the tranny is fully seated and bolted to the engine.
The spin one wheel and the other should turn in the opposite direction is a good test - give it a try.
Turn the non-rotating wheel and make sure that it spins the axle just fine all the way into transmission.
I would advise against jamming anything - the engine has a lot of power, and things could go flying.

To answer your question - no, it does not take all that much effort to stop a wheel from spinning. I was sanding a brake rotor once using the engine to spin it, and sand paper against rotor was enough to stop it.

With both wheels off the ground and nothing blocking either, both wheels should spin as long as the care is reasonably leveled. If it's tilted to one side, that is likely to prevent the other wheel from spinning.

Finally, it is possible that the diff itself is a toast, esp if you got the transmission of unknown origin, but that it unlikely. They rarely go bad, and when they do, you usually lose all power as opposed to just one wheel.
 
Discussion starter · #11 · (Edited)
The c-clip is seated. Car is tilted. The left wheel is lower than the right wheel. What behavior does this cause?

Idle is at 950, which is why I think I had trouble stopping the wheel. This another issue.

I haven't tried to turn the wheel in opposite directions while in gear. I've only tried in neutral.
 
Which axles did you use? The one from the donar car, or your own? I would have to refer back to the coversion info I have researched my self, but not all of the parts outside the transaxle itself, are fully interchangable. I believe there are significant differerences between the axles of the ATM, and the MTM. This is one point I rememember, without going back to check.
 
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