Is there a way in the 12th gen to idle in park with the parking brake on, to have all external lights off?

Have you tried starting the engine with the parking brake already engaged?

Refrain from letting your engine idle at all... Your car is not living quarters, and the engine is not a furnace.

 

Yes. The headlights have a long light on each side that turn on. They provide no visibility improvement

And ya, I realize it's not a furnace or a living quarters, but what exactly is it about me idling my car that's so bad.

 

What your looking for is in the infotainment center , its under settings or vehicle settings. I went in there and turned my drl's off but only come on when the lights are on.

 

OP is from Canada. On Canadian models there is no option to turn DRLs off due to legal requirements.

 

What is said above is true. That makes the lights entirely manual. And when you turn on the parking lights the DRLs aren't on etc

 

Is there a way in the 12th gen to idle in park with the parking brake on

Normally, DRL come on when you release the parking brake after the initial start (and remains on independently of parking brake afterward). So starting the car without releasing the parking brake afterward might do the trick.

Careful with long idling as it leads to poorly burned fuel, detrimental to many components of the engine/exhaust system. Plus the battery can't recharge at idle and a weak battery has all sort of consequences for the many electronic systems in modern car. Not to mention pollution and, mostly, risk of personal intoxication.

There is a reason modern cars have an auto-stop to idling and idling is regulated in most jurisdiction. To "squat" in a car, I'd say getting proper camping equipment would end up costing a lot less (and be more safe and comfortable) than the consequences of using components of the car that aren't designed to be used that way.

 

Geeze boys. Alot of hate it feels like coming from you for a guy who sleeps in his car on breaks at work and doesn't use hotels multiple consecutive nights in a row driving 5000km..

Ill just park near highway parking outlet with a sleeping bag or a source of safe heat if I'm traveling in the winter. Or even better I'll waste money on a hotel for the 5 hours I try to sleep when I do travel alone lol.

As for sleeping at work. No way I'm bringing a sleeping bag for one hour to "squat like a rolling stone" which was the basis to the majority of my question.


If you want the full details I work at a nuclear plant where they drive around in military vehicles looking around in the vehicles at work to make sure noone is doing drugs or sketchy terrorist shit. I'm allowed to nap and I'm allowed to idle my car while I nap. Especially if its bellow zero out. But I'd like to have my headlights off 100% to at least be a little inconspicuous while I'm doing it seeing as I am getting paid and the odd person may have a problem with it. I dont feel like waking up to a c16 assault rifle at my window lol. Especially not bundled up in a sleeping bag like I'm taking advantage of the break time. Wouldn't look very good....


And the main reason why I'm not concerned about poorly burnt fuel is because I don't do it all that often, just during this temporary outage. My plugs and oil should be fine plus I change them frequently anyways. Way sooner then suggested. And the final fact I also understand there is carbon buildup from unburnt fuels but im also amongst the few who media blast and perform things outside of general maintenance as general maintenance so I'd have to say ill be no different with this car.


All I wanted to know was if the parking break was the only way to keep all the lights off on most cars or if there was another trick to these cars to make that happen. Unfortunately the Canadian models do have DTRL by law but usually the long narrow strip and all other lights remain off when starting the cars with the ebrake on the way some of ya suggested. No biggie


Thanks anyways guys I'll go about my business without anymore concern about the lights since it's such a touchy subject to idle my car with some of ya.