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Lug Nut question- upgrading to Apex rims

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#1 ·
I have a 2020 Corolla LE with stock 16 in steelies. Upgrading to 18 in apex rims. It’s my understanding that I need new lug nuts to do this. I just don’t know which ones. If anyone can lead me in the right direction that would be great.
 

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#4 ·
The lugs for that p/n are in chrome only but use them for their specs.
Best to contact Apex directly or Toyota.
Also Toyota Parts say that wheel won't fit a LE, made for XSE and SE

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  • Brand:
    Toyota Parts
    Scion Parts

  • SKU: PT946-02210-02
  • Other Names: Wheels, Rim, Rims
  • Description:
    • Bring sporty style to the Corolla with these 18-in. Apex gloss black wheels now available for SE and XSE
 
#5 ·
It looks like you need washer shoulder style lug nuts, similar to what most Toyota use for OEM wheels.
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What I don't know and you need to know is if OEM nuts will have enough depth on the studs for proper engagement or if they'll bottom out before clamping the wheel correctly.
 
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For OP: If the pic is of the wheels you already got, temporarily steal one lugnut from your car and drop it in. You'll know if it fits.

View attachment 492882 This style only works with steel wheels.

View attachment 492883 This style works with steel wheels and OEM alloy wheels.
But not aftermarket alloys, that needs true conical lugnuts?
(the top one, if it's anything like the stock lugnuts from my 99 Corolla, are conical)

The lug nuts are one thing, I'd be interested as to why Toyota says they're not for the Corolla LE
A quick visit to Tire Rack may yield answers (bolt pattern, offset etc). Actually if he bought the rims from Tire Rack and entered the correct model/make, they include matching lugnuts for free. At least they did when I bought those Kosei K1 TS for my old Corolla.
 
#12 ·
For OP: If the pic is of the wheels you already got, temporarily steal one lugnut from your car and drop it in. You'll know if it fits.


But not aftermarket alloys, that needs true conical lugnuts?
(the top one, if it's anything like the stock lugnuts from my 99 Corolla, are conical)


A quick visit to Tire Rack may yield answers (bolt pattern, offset etc). Actually if he bought the rims from Tire Rack and entered the correct model/make, they include matching lugnuts for free. At least they did when I bought those Kosei K1 TS for my old Corolla.
Reading his post, OP has steel wheels (likely acorn wheel nuts) and he got Toyota OEM alloys from Apex edition that need the Toyota lug nuts with washers flat seat:

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#18 ·
This is a very bad advice. These OEM wheels are designed and made to work with OEM Toyota nuts. Using anything else would be at risk of improper torque, loosening of the nuts, etc. Just look up BZ4X recall details and perhaps read up on Toyota wheel nut design...

As a side note: I've been driving with OEM nuts for decades and thousands of miles on rust belt roads and never had one fail due to problems you listed...
 
#23 ·
I’ll add this. I inquired with discount tire about a steel wheel I purchased for a full size spare and what type of lug nuts they sell or give for steel wheels. They showed me what that had and they were all acorn style.

What happened to the flat lug nuts from the past when an acorn lug nut doesn’t cover the diameter for each opening in the wheel? Most steel wheels are thru holes. Versus alloy wheels typically have a pocket for the lug nuts to sit and keep the wheel centered.

You’d think that wheel techs would know this information and they don’t.

At the end of the day, wheels have become so exotic to the point that off the shelf lug nuts won’t cut it. Wheel manufacturers have their own set of lug nuts to use. No different than changing wheels whether oem or aftermarket. Bolt was selected and designed for a purpose of safety.

Edit : the washer was added to protect the lug nut from using different materials to prevent corrosion and swelling is my assessment.
 
#24 ·
Edit : the washer was added to protect the lug nut from using different materials to prevent corrosion and swelling is my assessment.
Toyota lug nuts with washers are made of solid steel which is relatively stainless. They don't have that flimsy chrome cap as found on Mopar products.... The washer actually protects the aluminum alloy wheel by allowing the lug nut to rotate on it while tightening and loosening.

Pack of 6 Toyota black lug nuts PT076-06200-02
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#27 ·
Correct, Toyota lug nuts used to be a solid non capped design but some later nuts are capped now, starting at least 10 years ago. They fare better than Chrysler and GM capped nuts but still do suffer the same kind of swelling cap failure eventually.
Source - me dealing with pounding swollen nuts for 18 years. Swollen nuts are the hardest to get off, they just won't bust.