It's an entirely different transmission code compared to the E51 or 52 used in the supercharged MR2. It's an EC6x series I believe and bell housing pattern is different however it will fit 1ZZ and 2ZR engines.

 

I know the code is different but the Corolla trans has nothing to do with the trans in my MR2. The bell housing should be the same since it's the same engine in the 10th & 11th gen Corolla.

I would do is look at the difference in ratios between the 5 & 6 speeds. If they just shortened the ratios and ended up with a short first gear and higher running RPMS in 6th than the 5speed had like they did in the 9th Gen, Xrs' (many had been disappointed with it as they seemed to be constantly shifting) it may not be worth the effort..unless you like that sort of thing...which some do I suppose.

Just saying.

I don't think it's like the 9th gen Corolla. The RPM's in the 11th gen Corolla in 6th gear are much lower then the 10th gen in 5th gear.

In order to do this swap, I'm pretty sure you would have to get the EC65 transmission(the 6 speed manual) and an ECU for the 11th gen Corolla. It would be a really cool and unique mod but my suggestion is to wait a little bit because MWR are starting to work on the 2ZR-FE and the transmissions so let's just see what they will build for the 5 speed manual you have first.

I was going to keep an eye out for a 6 speed trans from an 11th gen if this would work. Why would I need an ECU from the 11th gen though? Couldn't I just slip it into 6th gear? Why would the current ECU know any different?

 

I would do is look at the difference in ratios between the 5 & 6 speeds. If they just shortened the ratios and ended up with a short first gear and higher running RPMS in 6th than the 5speed had like they did in the 9th Gen, Xrs' (many had been disappointed with it as they seemed to be constantly shifting) it may not be worth the effort..unless you like that sort of thing...which some do I suppose.

Just saying.

 

In order to do this swap, I'm pretty sure you would have to get the EC65 transmission(the 6 speed manual) and an ECU for the 11th gen Corolla. It would be a really cool and unique mod but my suggestion is to wait a little bit because MWR are starting to work on the 2ZR-FE and the transmissions so let's just see what they will build for the 5 speed manual you have first.

 

Well, the only way to find out is by doing the swap!

 

While true, I would want to make more certain before I did it! :lol:

Even with mechanical shift, the design could include the information of the position of the gear for the ECU if Toyota likes.

Interesting. What should be a simple swap might be a headache & not worth it. If I had to swap the ECU I don't think that I would bother. :crying:

 

Maybe if you find a wrecked 11th gen at a salvage yard, you could get the transmission and ECU for cheap! But the there is also installation fees and labor...but at least there is hope! I would love to see a 6 speed 10th gen and it would be awesome if it will be you SuperCharged!

 

6-speeds FTW. I got spoiled in my SVT, 5-speeds almost seem craptacular by comparison now.

 

I'd be curious to see if an older c60 transmission would bolt up. They were used with the 2zz motors

 

They could, but I would assume that you would need to modify them in order to fit the 2ZR-FE since they are different engines.

The gear ratios are all out of whack though for the 10th gen. There are 6 gears but they are spread over the same range. I would like the current 6-speed to get an extra tall 6th gear to improve why mpg even more.

 

They could, but I would assume that you would need to modify them in order to fit the 2ZR-FE since they are different engines.

 

Here are the gear and final drive ratios from a 2011 and 2014 Corolla.

2011
Gear Ratios
1st 3.166
2nd 1.904
3rd 1.310
4th 0.885
5th 0.725
Differential Ratio 4.312

2014

I = 3.54; II = 1.91; III = 1.31; IV = 0.97; V = 0.71; VI = 0.62

Final-drive ratio (x:1) 4.21

 

Looks like I was right, those RPM's would be a lot lower in 6th gear vs my 5th gear!

 

I know the five speed ninth gens and six speed ninth gens (XRS of course) are direct swaps. Maybe you can. Maybe you can't. Best bet is to contact MWR and ask them.

 

So does anyone live in MI? I asked MonkeyWrench Racing about the swap & they want to do it but need a car to try it on. This was the response I got from them.

"We're interested in performing this swap but don't have a car on hand. The transmission will bolt in and the axles will work. The mounts and shifter/cables are in question. Would you be able to bring the car to us for the job?"

Thanks,

Matt @ Monkeywrench
Shipping and Billing address:
Monkeywrench Racing
2287 E West Maple Rd, Unit B
Commerce Township, MI 48390 - USA
Phone: 248-624-9820
Fax: 248-479-0775

 

So nobody on TN lives near MI and would like a 6-speed MT upgrade from the 5-speed MT? :headbang:

 

Heard from Monkeywrench today & they said that it should not have to worry about the ECU being changed. Good news!!!!

So where are any of this people that live in MI????

 

If you can drive to Alaska and back, why not do a trip to Michigan? :grin:

 

Its all in where you sit in the BSFC Tables(Brake Specific Fuel Consumption) my friend. http://www.autospeed.com/A_112611/cms/article.html :nerd:

 

This is true but I'll bet nobody knows what the exact graphs look like for the 1.8L and with a MT you can still control the engine speed better so having an additional gear would be fine with me. The rpm point with my 5MT doesn't bother me even though it's higher then the 4AT. The engine is not a lot louder at 3200 rpm then at 2500 rpm.

 

I'm pretty sure this swap is straight foward, the shifter and cables from the 10th gen can be used over as well as axels and front and rear mounts, small mods are necessary for the top mount and the mounting bracket to clamp the shifter cables in position with the C clips.

 

What ever came of this? I've got a 09 Corolla S myself, and I've been hinting at doing a 6spd change... I live in VA, and would love to work with someone or get some tips.

 

I still haven't heard if Monkeywrench has been able to confirm this. I've asked and check with a lot of people and from all angles it looks like it should work just fine. You will have to use a 11th gen clutch though. You will also have to find a used 6-speed trans!

 

I did this swap back in January, its a descent upgrade.

the video below has me testing my car at half throttle from 3rd gear to 6th gear

 

I did this swap back in January, its a descent upgrade.

the video below has me testing my car at half throttle from 3rd gear to 6th gear



https://youtu.be/sdwytxuygEU

So how did it go putting in the 6-speed? What issues did you have? Was it a straight swap or did you have to work through some problems? Any help would be appreciated as several of us are looking at this trans swap. My biggest issue has been to find a 6-speed from a wrecked 11th gen Corolla.

 

I am always hesitant on my thoughts on an 'upgrade' or 'mod' when I see them driving it with the check engine light and other lights on in the console. Seems like still some bugs to work out of some kind.

 

I'm betting that is due to something with the turbo set up more then the transmission. :wink:

 

I think Sniper is using a C160 transmission not a 2014+ EC65.

Have you found any more compatibilty info SuperchargedMR2?

 

Nothing for certain but everyone that I've asked has said that it should bolt up and work as the engine is the same. I've not been able to verify if the trans mounts are the same or different though.

 

:nerd:

On another note guys, since this is a tranny thread I thought I might ask this here

Has anyone ever tried to mount the 2AZ manual transmission to the 2ZR engine ?

I'm only asking cause I'm thinking of going in that direction, I've havent done all the research yet but I'm looking into getting some info on the internals

A couple weeks back I came out for a little night racing and I broke third gear and the output shaft :frown::surprise::crying:

 

I will be finding out if this works or not! I just found a 6-speed MT from a 2014 Corolla so I bought it. It only has 9870 miles on it. Very excited to see if this will work! I won't get to it until later this fall but I couldn't let it go with so few miles on it. I also found a full rear axle with disc brakes on it that I'm going to look at tomorrow! >

 

how are you coming along with the swap @SuperchargedMR2 ?

on another note, i'm wondering if anyone would be interested in a LSD for C56, C60, C63, C64, C66 trannies ??

Its in great condition I'm just considering scrapping this box and finding some thing else

 

I'm glad you finally bought one! Even if this doesn't work (not saying it won't), you can still get a lot by selling the transmission. Also, if this does work, will your next mod be... a turbo? And please make a separate thread once you start installing the transmission into your car. :thumbsup:

 

Well I won't be doing this for now. The points where the shift cables and linkage connect are different than the 5-speed. I will have to use the shifter cables form the 11th gen Corolla. I also found out that I would need to use the shifter out of an 11th gen Corolla but that it wouldn't just swap in. I was hoping that I could just use the cables with my shifter but was told they were different. So for now this swap is on hold and I'll live with 5 gears. It can be done with some effort but I didn't want to get into it that much until I can verify some more details.

 

@SuperchargedMR2 any head way with the swap??

you should look into having the cables modified for your application, I had it done in one of my many phases of modification lol.

Took them buy an industrial company that does stuff for off shore oil rigging and they crimpped on the end i needed for the tranny side while keeping my stock setup for the shifter side, works like a dream and i think is better than oem quality since their work is used for industrial applications.

On another note i have found a new tranny > doing some mods now to get it going, i'll give you an update when I'm done with some custom work i'm trying out

 

I know this is an old post, but was looking for some info regarding 6-speed, for you to know, in my country the 10th gen was sold with a 6-speed transmission, finally found the code and it is the EC60!

 

That's the 6 speed in the 11th gen Corolla. But, the 10th gen Corolla's with the 5 speed manual have different mounts and cables than the 6 speed equipped ones. It still can be fit into our Corolla's though and I hope Supercharged will be one of the first ones to do so.

 

LHD 10th Gen 6-speed Shifter Parts:

33530-12A61 - Shifter Assembly
33504-02141-B1 - Shift Knob (Dark Grey, Plastic)
33504-02151-B1 - Shift Knob (Dark Grey, Leather)
33504-02151-E0 - Shift Knob (Brown, Leather)
33820-12E70 - Shift Cables

May need to be ordered from overseas, but they definitely exist.

Jeff

 

Thanks, Jeff! Haven't seen you around for a long time so great to have your input! Appreciate the info so maybe I can look into ordering the shifter assembly and cables! Sure do miss your help around the Corolla forums!