[Beechnut]

I'm retired and for the most part, when things are really bad, I can just stay at home nice and cozy by the wood stove!

 

[Jeff_the_engineer]

2001 honda civic DX model, only electronic thing is the radio. No abs, no power window or lock, no nothing, 21 winters no problem. Now the 2022 SE corolla in winter is like a landcruiser compared to my old civic.

 

[HHAANNKK]

no issues at all running regular blizzaks and i live in the rocky mountains

 

[invader]

Anybody else hate driving these things in the snow?
Even on good tires, and careful throttle use, I still spin the tires at every stop when the snow hits.

Understeer is another one too in the snow. It’s super bad.

Pilot Sport A/S 4

225/40/18

Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 4 225/40R18's are the problem... My Falken WINTERPEAK F-ICE 1 205/55R16 winter tires perform beautifully in severe winter conditions.

MICHELIN®PILOT® SPORT ALL SEASON 4

Supercar certified.
The first all season tire chosen by Chevrolet for the Corvette.

MICHELIN PILOT SPORT A/S 4 - Car Tire | Michelin® Canada

Falken® WINTERPEAK F-ICE 1

WINTERPEAK F-ICE 1 (falkentire.com)

 

[Bertiespeed]

I was very surprised how well my 20 corolla sedan handled the winter. And mines manual to boot.

I have to drive in the most horrible conditions because I plow the 401 here in Ontario and get called at the worst possible times during winter months..

I bought 205/55/16 Sailun ice blazer wst1 tires mounted to my stock aluminum rims, and they performed WAY better than I expected...

 

[HHAANNKK]

OP is driving on crap tires for winter.

Absolutely nothing beats a dedicated winter/snow tire.

OP get real winter/snow tires and you'll have no issues.

 

[supton]

I was very surprised how well my 20 corolla sedan handled the winter. And mines manual to boot.

IMO a clutch helps. Maybe not if you have snow mode turned on or something, but otherwise it allows you to feather both throttle and clutch, minimize wheelspin (or optimize it, if you are after cleaning out the voids). I didn't "hate" my Tundra but it was lousy in snow as the tip-in was heavy, and w/o a clutch to feather it, it loved to spin a tire. My '11 Camry had heavy tip-in but a clutch, and it was way better in snow (until it got deep, then flip the Tundra into 4HI and away it went!).

 

[voodoo22]

I don't know. I've driven through a lot of winters and never had any issues with any car other than trucks with empty beds or vehicles with improper tires for the conditions where you had to drive extra, extra cautiously. I even drove our HB through very hilly terrain during a snow squall and was passing everyone safely on our all weather tires. The conditions were horrific, but I'm used to that kind of stuff more than most. A few minutes behind us there was a massive pile up that made national news in the USA, people died and the road was blocked for a few days. I think people having problems in any driving condition is more due to not having experience or not driving within the limits of the vehicle and its setup. You'll see stunt drivers talking about how it doesn't really matter what kind of car you're driving, it's the skill of the driver.

 

[stevo88]

Yeah but all weather tires are not all season tires... Lingo is confusing I know. Not a ton of options for all weather tires either. OP has all season tires which won't work well in snow

 

[ohw]

On snow and ice in low temperature, the rubber compound and the tread design of the winter tires provide more traction than All Weather, then All Season, then summer performance tires, in that order. On snow, wider tires increase float which gives you less traction, think skis and snow boards. That’s why size 225 all season tires are not the best choice to use for snowy winters. 205 or 195 width winter tires would help a lot.
There is physics and there is driving skills to create the dynamic states while driving. The driving skills allow the driver to make use of whatever traction your car/tires has available. The increased traction from a good set of winter tires gives a driver more to work with. Best case is when you have the skills to do all the right things, and with a good set of tires to do it with.

 

[igzy]

After the surprise freezing rain last week, I put my winter tires on yesterday

I came across this video today, thought to share. In summary, there doesn't seem to be much variation in performance narrow vs wide tires, but they did note varying performance across tire brands. Their advice is to focus on tire brand rating rather than on width:

 

[doznI4SE]

^- You mean tire model, not specifically brand.

 

[voodoo22]

After the surprise freezing rain last week, I put my winter tires on yesterday

I came across this video today, thought to share. In summary, there doesn't seem to be much variation in performance narrow vs wide tires, but they did note varying performance across tire brands. Their advice is to focus on tire brand rating rather than on width:

This guy does some really cool tests and often uses a wide array of tyres.... tires. Unfortunately, much of what he tests isn't available in Canada.

One subtle thing that can make some difference is the speed rating of the tire. Sometimes everything seems equal except for the price, but a higher speed rating could be the difference and that will affect tread wear and performance.

I usually prefer narrower to a point, for fuel efficiency over stopping power and performance on a car like the Corolla.

Tires are so vital and affect the car is so many ways and should never be over looked. I heavily research every time before buying.

 

[Jeff_the_engineer]

Just like WRC on gravel cars have narrow tires. This video proves narrow tires have shorter brake distance. I always buy winter tires one size down and narrower. The winter tires on my Corolla is 195/60R15.

 

[75aces]

I’ve always thought that you will have longer braking distance no matter what. You can never see black ice.

Although, a WRC has dual caliper in the front to help slow down. In the real world, no corolla except for the GR corolla has a dual piston caliper set up to help slow it down and awd.

 

[voodoo22]

I’ve always thought that you will have longer braking distance no matter what. You can never see black ice.

Although, a WRC has dual caliper in the front to help slow down. In the real world, no corolla except for the GR corolla has a dual piston caliper set up to help slow it down and awd.

When I had to drive nearly every day I had Nokian Hakkapeliitta tires and they were unbelievable, especially when brand new. ABS wouldn't even engage on black ice. Best winter tires I ever owned for ice/snow traction.

If you live somewhere that has a lot of black ice long enough, you do begin to see it. Especially after a few falls! Even if you can't see it, you know it's out there based on the conditions if you're paying attention, but most drivers are too cheap to pay attention these days.

 

[75aces]

When I had to drive nearly every day I had Nokian Hakkapeliitta tires and they were unbelievable, especially when brand new. ABS wouldn't even engage on black ice. Best winter tires I ever owned for ice/snow traction.

If you live somewhere that has a lot of black ice long enough, you do begin to see it. Especially after a few falls! Even if you can't see it, you know it's out there based on the conditions if you're paying attention, but most drivers are too cheap to pay attention these days.

We live in a different world.

These days, everyone is in a hurry. Not giving a minimum of 1-1/2 car lengths to follow safely especially around a big rig.

 

[igzy]

When I had to drive nearly every day I had Nokian Hakkapeliitta tires and they were unbelievable, especially when brand new. ABS wouldn't even engage on black ice. Best winter tires I ever owned for ice/snow traction.

If you live somewhere that has a lot of black ice long enough, you do begin to see it. Especially after a few falls! Even if you can't see it, you know it's out there based on the conditions if you're paying attention, but most drivers are too cheap to pay attention these days.

➕1️⃣

I loved them on my 1st gen IS300, fresh deep snow, disable VSC and ABS, and fuuuuuuun

 

[75aces]

When I had to drive nearly every day I had Nokian Hakkapeliitta tires and they were unbelievable, especially when brand new. ABS wouldn't even engage on black ice. Best winter tires I ever owned for ice/snow traction.

If you live somewhere that has a lot of black ice long enough, you do begin to see it. Especially after a few falls! Even if you can't see it, you know it's out there based on the conditions if you're paying attention, but most drivers are too cheap to pay attention these days.

I dread the day a sheet of black ice takes me off the road. It’ll eventually happen when I’m in upstate NY or Vermont. Possibly Pennsylvania as I go there for work too. I’m not going out without a fight.

 

[igzy]

I dread the day a sheet of black ice takes me off the road. It’ll eventually happen when I’m in upstate NY or Vermont. Possibly Pennsylvania as I go there for work too. I’m not going out without a fight.

I had summer tires last week when we got freezing rain. Luckily I worked from home that day...