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Transmission fluid change question

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I changed my transmission fluid and only took out about 2.5 quarts. I replaced it with the same amount. I already made a trip with the car. If I bring the transmission to temperature and fluid comes out, can I assume that the right amount or slightly more was added. I'm assuming if nothing streams out that it was under filled or the exact amount. The first time I changed it I took out a little under 3 quarts. it made me think it was low to begin with.
 
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I did the fluid change today on my 2022 SE AWD at 55k miles. I ran into a couple issues.

First, when I drained the fluid, I was surprised to get only 68 ounces out. I measured carefully with a paint mixing cup, so it was pretty accurate. Oh well, so it is. According to the instructions, I put in more than I took out, so basically as much as I could easily get out of 3 quart bottles with the pump, minus a little spillage, so probably 2-2/3 quarts, or 85 ounces

Secondly, the pin location 13 in the OBDII port did not have a pin in it, so there was no way to do the maintenance mode temperature measurement. I ended up using a temp gun. Actually, I have two and they were within half a degree so that's good.

After reaching temperature, I pulled the plug, and nothing came out. I shut the car off, added most of another quart, and ran the car up to temp again. It lost about 5 degrees in the process, probably a good part of that was just temperature stabilization with internal parts, so all good. I pulled the plug and fluid came out as expected. It did seem like it was a fair amount, but I didn't measure it.

Based on other folks adding more than my initial add I have concluded that most likely the car has been around a quart low from the factory. I already questioned the necessity of the extensive procedure to set level, and this strengthens my doubts. As for the pin #13 being missing, my only guess is that either it's a Covid car and they missed it, or maybe it is only used for DIY functions, and they decided they could leave it out on purpose. Either way, that's a couple of negative points for Toyota quality in my eyes.
 
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As for the pin #13 being missing, my only guess is that either it's a Covid car and they missed it, or maybe it is only used for DIY functions, and they decided they could leave it out on purpose. Either way, that's a couple of negative points for Toyota quality in my eyes.
Toyota changed the procedure for 2020 and up. You don't need a jumper anymore to enter fluid temperature detection mode and engine idle speed control mode:

Depress and hold the brake pedal.
c. Start the engine.
NOTE: To reduce load, make sure that all electrical systems, such as the air conditioning, lighting system, electric fan and audio system, are off.
d. Slowly move the shift lever from P to D, then back to P.
HINT:
a. Slowly move the shift lever to circulate the automatic transaxle fluid through each part of the automatic transaxle assembly.
b. Keep the shift lever in each position for approximately 3 seconds.
e. While observing the D shift indicator on the combination meter, move the shift lever back and forth
between N and D at an interval of less than 1.5 seconds for 12 seconds or more.
NOTE: Do not pause for more than 1.5 seconds.
 
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Well you could do the temp measurement via the odb2 using the ECU on an app like say Torque Pro (only for android though). Torque Pro (OBD 2 & Car) - Apps on Google Play


I have heard of other makes also coming low on trans fluid from the factory and they work that way for years before anyone notices.
I've used Torque in the past, but am on iPhone now. I guess I could load it on a tablet. I didn't know Torque would display the trans temp though. Good info.