If you mean the small clips those are wear indicators. Squealing can come from shims vibrating, pads too tight in the caliper bracket (rust) or simply poor quality pads and rotors (or other rotor issues) among other factors.

 

Yeah, I was referring to the two small clips in the photo from my second link above. Thought those were some kind of anti rattle/spring clips, but wasn't sure. Good to know lack of those wouldn't be causing the squeal.

 

Welcome to TN.

Replace that bent torque plate bracket your referring too(probably not your squeal( I said probably))

Did you sand the rust off the caliber piston and also off the caliper outboard ears that apply pressure to the outboard pad? Did both calipers pistons pushed in smooth(not seizing up)? If all is cleaned and lubed likely the pads, you can chamfer them to quell the noise(temporary repair).

Oh, and are you sure it's coming from the front? You can locate source by standing on side while someone applies brake.

Best

 

Welcome to TN.

Replace that bent torque plate bracket your referring too(probably not your squeal( I said probably))

Did you sand the rust off the caliber piston and also off the caliper outboard ears that apply pressure to the outboard pad? Did both calipers pistons pushed in smooth(not seizing up)? If all is cleaned and lubed likely the pads, you can chamfer them to quell the noise(temporary repair).

Oh, and are you sure it's coming from the front? You can locate source by standing on side while someone applies brake.

Best

Thanks for the tips! I did get the rust off the caliper, where those brackets were, but did not think to do the caliper pistons. That's a good idea. When we changed the pads, we were able to get the pistons to go in with a c-clamp and didn't have any problems. Other than that I did not test the pistons ... is there another or better way to do that?

Also, yes, I am sure it is coming from one side of the front. I had people stand on each side while I was braking and it was the front side.

 

Common issue with packaged brake kits. Clips become bent in package handling and touch the rotor when installed, which is why I always spin the rotor before putting the wheel back on new brakes. Just look for the scratch and flatten whatever bit is touching away from the rotor.

 

Thanks ... great tip! The brake in question just squeals when the brake is applied (and when it's about creeping speed). Would that rule out the clip touching the rotor because wouldn't that screech all the time?

 

Were the pistons easy to push back in? Might be rebuild time if not.

Have you flush out the brake fluid?

 

Yeah, they didn't seem to have problems going back in. Did not flush the brake fluid, just popped the top on the brake fluid reservoir when compressing the piston and topped it off after everything was done.

 

I've worked on Gen 3, 4, and 6 and they all have the "wishbone" anti rattle/squeal springs which attach to two holes on the side of each pad. I assume the Gen 5 also has this.

If you look at this DIY and look at the 2nd photo in step #4, you will see those springs of which I am speaking.

https://www.toyotanation.com/forum/...on-2002-2006-2007-2011/668921-diy-2007-2011-gen-6-6-5-front-brake-job-pics.html

A lot of people/mechanics don't bother putting these on as they feel they aren't necessary, but I always use them. It might not even be the reason for your problem, but just so you know there is such a thing and IMO you should install them if the Gen 5 does have this feature (I would think it would since the previous and next Gens have it).

 

I've worked on Gen 3, 4, and 6 and they all have the "wishbone" anti rattle/squeal springs which attach to two holes on the side of each pad. I assume the Gen 5 also has this.

If you look at this DIY and look at the 2nd photo in step #4, you will see those springs of which I am speaking.

https://www.toyotanation.com/forum/...on-2002-2006-2007-2011/668921-diy-2007-2011-gen-6-6-5-front-brake-job-pics.html

A lot of people/mechanics don't bother putting these on as they feel they aren't necessary, but I always use them. It might not even be the reason for your problem, but just so you know there is such a thing and IMO you should install them if the Gen 5 does have this feature (I would think it would since the previous and next Gens have it).

Thanks for the tip. So those are the anti rattle springs. Looks like the brake pads must have a hole for the ends to go into. I'm not sure my Duralast Gold pads have a hole there, but will check when I get the wheel off. Could those springs be specific to certain brands of pads?

 

I don't see any anti rattle "fingers"
http://www.japan-parts.eu/toyota/us...3_283470_012_/powertrain-chassis/4705_front-disc-brake-caliper-dust-cover#04465

The part number suggests the factory pads are made by Akebono.

 

Last week I replaced the brake pads (front & back) on my '02 Camry LE V6. I picked up the Toyota front ceramic pads for $50 on Amazon (see link below). The good news: the OEM pads were easy to install and are working well--I have a firm brake pedal now. The bad news: the OEM pads didn't come with new shims or clips, so I had to reuse the old hardware. If your Duralast clips are causing the squeak, did you save the original OEM clips?



https://www.amazon.com/Genuine-Toyota-Premium-04465-AZ106-2002-2006/dp/B072BP1Q1T

No, I didn't save them. They did not look to be in great shape. However, I can buy a new set at Advance Auto for less than $5 so may do that. They come with the 4 clips and two wear indicators, just like the ones in the second link to Rock Auto in my original post.

One reason I like the DuraLast Gold Pads is that Autozone has a lifetime warranty on them, so when they wear out, you just take them back with your receipt and they'll give you another replacement pair for free. So you only have to buy brake pads once for the life of your car.

 

Just an update: I bought a new brake hardware kit for the 05 Camry at Advance Auto for about $3 and installed the new retaining clips. The brake pads fit much tighter in these than the bent ones that came with the pads. (BTW, how easily should they slide in these retaining clips?) I also cleaned everything up again, but this time I sanded the piston -- although it wasn't too dirty -- and sanded the pads. Also put the tire on and turned it before lowering it from the jack to make sure there was no rubbing sound. There wasn't, and after a test drive, all is good so far.


I think the squeal at creeping speeds is fixed and think the old bent retaining clip was the problem. Thanks everyone for the great tips and advice!


One question: when the car is parked and I pump the brake, that wheel squeaks/chirps ever so slightly. What would cause that, since the car is not moving and nothing should be vibrating -- the piston?

 

You shouldn't have to sand the brake pad.

Just curious, did your new hardware kit come with the wishbone-shaped anti-rattle springs?

 

No it didn't come with that anti rattle spring. I think that only comes with certain brake pads that have holes on the edge for the spring to fit into. My Duralast Gold pads did not have those holes or the spring included. And the hardware kit did not have it.