Why are some people such boneheads?

I know! Because they are born with one! :lol:

 

No help, you are. :sad: Next!

 

hmmm lemme give it a try...

because they're born with one?

 

On 2002-05-11 22:34, mistamatrix wrote:
...that it's not easy as:
160hp car + 10hp exhaust + 8hp intake = 178hp

Why are some people such boneheads?

i thought that's how it werks tho. J/K

 

why not? If an exhaust and intake add that much power, then you would have 178hp at the crank.

On 2002-05-11 22:34, mistamatrix wrote:
...that it's not easy as:
160hp car + 10hp exhaust + 8hp intake = 178hp

Why are some people such boneheads?

 

Go to http://www.howstuffworks.com and look up "How does Horse Power work"... you'll find all the info and examples you'll ever need!

And by the way, intake ADDS HP, but exhaust FREES UP HP... correct me if I'm wrong.

 

HP = the ability to move one pound of material one foot in one second. :smile:

 

1hp = the amount a weight a horse can lift 1 ft per second.

(think it was 3XX pounds)
the formula for HP was like Torque over 2(pie)
grr, n/m can't remember

 

No. I don't need a definition of HP.
What I do need is the best way to explain that HP does not add up as simple as the equation in my first post.

 

whatchoo talkin bout willis!??

 

HP is Hewlett Packard :roll:

Whatcha guys talkin about??!!

 

What I'm talking about is that horsepower doesn't add up as easy as 1+1=2.

Some people are led to believe that just because their car is 160hp then they install a 10hp exhaust, an 8hp intake and 12hp headers that they'll come out with a 190hp producing car.

 

well it is. if an exhaust adds 10 hp and an intake adds 10 thats 20 additional hp.

It is quite simple.

Correct me if i'm worng, but i think your question has to deal with how to tune rather than what is HP. You wnat to know whats involved in making, for arguments sake, 30% more power, right?

Nick

 

Are you even reading my posts?

And no, it is not that simple.

 

On 2002-05-13 10:27, mistamatrix wrote:
Are you even reading my posts?

And no, it is not that simple.

I think you're talking about fluctuations in gains from certain mods right? Like how a certain muffler may give 4HP to the wheels for one person but 1, 2, or 6HP to someone else right? There are tons of reasons this could happen because no one has identical cars, unless of course they are right off the dealers lot in which case they STILL may not be 100% the same. One persons air filter may be dirtier than the others, dirty spark plugs, dirty engine oil, atmospheric changes during the dyno, etc etc, you can go on forever. Is this what you what you were trying to say, that HP from mods cannot be predicted?

latez.

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<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Ratko on 2002-05-13 12:10 ]</font>

 

That's somewhat what I'm talking about. But even simpler than that. What I should've done was post where this is all coming from.

From another board, this guy has a Matrix XRS and I'm trying to tell him that just cuz he stuck this and that part to his car doesn't mean he's producing the numbers he "estimates".

OK, so far I am very satisfied with the performance....

All I got so far is TRD Exhaust, K&N drop in filter and a couple of Spiral Maxes.. I would estimate this car at 210-215 HP and 150-155 Torque.

I have taken the new Acura 3.2 TL Type-S from a rolling start.
I taken the newer MonteCarlo SS
Hondas are slow, I have had a problem with a couple of moded SI but still got them.
I have taken a GST with intake and exhaust on the highway.
I took an Integra GSR straight headers.

Those all I remember for now... I will let you guys know of more people I kill tonight

For the people that were wondering about my NOS.. I am installing it with a buddy of mine on Monday.



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On 2002-05-13 13:43, mistamatrix wrote:
a couple of Spiral Maxes.. I would estimate this car at 210-215 HP and 150-155 Torque.

:roll: :lol: A couple of spiral maxes!! :lol: I wonder how much horse power he figured for a couple of them... :lol:

 

If he had a problem with a couple of modded SIs then his car definately does not have 200+ hp and whatever torque. Any Civic should be lunchmeat to anything with that power.

That back's up the fact that it's not as easy as 1+1=2.

 

and had trouble with Civics but not the GST? I thought the GST was a 14s car out of the box?

 

On 2002-05-13 13:43, mistamatrix wrote:
That's somewhat what I'm talking about. But even simpler than that. What I should've done was post where this is all coming from.

From another board, this guy has a Matrix XRS and I'm trying to tell him that just cuz he stuck this and that part to his car doesn't mean he's producing the numbers he "estimates".

OK, so far I am very satisfied with the performance....

All I got so far is TRD Exhaust, K&N drop in filter and a couple of Spiral Maxes.. I would estimate this car at 210-215 HP and 150-155 Torque.

I have taken the new Acura 3.2 TL Type-S from a rolling start.
I taken the newer MonteCarlo SS
Hondas are slow, I have had a problem with a couple of moded SI but still got them.
I have taken a GST with intake and exhaust on the highway.
I took an Integra GSR straight headers.

Those all I remember for now... I will let you guys know of more people I kill tonight

For the people that were wondering about my NOS.. I am installing it with a buddy of mine on Monday.



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<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: mistamatrix on 2002-05-13 13:44 ]</font>

This is what you've been trying to answer?????????

Okay tell me this...when you swim, do you sink or float???? Cuz gauging on how dense you are, you should be at the bottom of the f*cking lake by now!

The only reason this thread went on this long is because of your complete idocy. You deserve a punch in the face for that!

Next time, explain yourself better so the rest of us aren't trying to be like Kreskin and read your undeveloped mind.

and BTW...Ratko is talking about what you are asking.
Nick

 

The GST probably wasn't racing him, but just a normal speeder :razz:

 

The only reason this thread went on this long is because of your complete idocy. You deserve a punch in the face for that!

Typo on idiocy. And i dont think he was talking about himself. Maybe a friend that he's explaining to. At least i hope so.

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: TorontoBud on 2002-05-14 00:40 ]</font>

 

Pontiac says their Vibe GTR makes 190hp with the addition of exhaust and hood scoop.

 

On 2002-05-13 16:35, goodcookiedrift wrote:
This is what you've been trying to answer?????????

Okay tell me this...when you swim, do you sink or float???? Cuz gauging on how dense you are, you should be at the bottom of the f*cking lake by now!

The only reason this thread went on this long is because of your complete idocy. You deserve a punch in the face for that!

Next time, explain yourself better so the rest of us aren't trying to be like Kreskin and read your undeveloped mind.

and BTW...Ratko is talking about what you are asking.
Nick

WTF?
I thought I made myself very clear from the original post. You're the one that made it more difficult than it actually was.

Whatever, internet tough guy.:roll:

 

Pontiac says their Vibe GTR makes 190hp with the addition of exhaust and hood scoop.

are you serious about that??? damn!! I was thinknig about making my exhaust into a straight pipe becuase I really hate the setup they have right now..... too much restricted flow!