So did you even do research? Aftermarket fog lights can be installed.

When was fog lights ever standard?

 

Currently there are no fog lights for 21 XSE camrys

 

Fog lights have been standard on higher-trim Camrys since the 2002 (SE) 2003 (XLE) model year. That seemed to stop with the heavy 2015 update that Toyota applied with the Camry- when only higher trim level XLE and XSE trims got the LED DRLs that were tucked into the lower bumper that sort-of doubled as fog lights at night.

Starting in 2018, no Camrys in the US have come with fog lights- granted there were some Toyota-brand ones that people have installed in 2018-2020 Camrys... I'm not sure if those parts came from overseas or if a specific region of the country had them available. There are threads with information about that modification- but it seems like those lights won't fit a 2021 due to the restyled front bumper. There are a few aftermarket options for the 2018-20... but I haven't seen any yet that are made for the 2021 Camry.

I can tell you this- I definitely appreciate that my 2021 Accord still came with fog lights. They do make a difference- even with the excellent LED headlights that come on modern cars.

 

Fog lights have been standard on higher-trim Camrys since the 2002 (SE) 2003 (XLE) model year. That seemed to stop with the heavy 2015 update that Toyota applied with the Camry- when only higher trim level XLE and XSE trims got the LED DRLs that were tucked into the lower bumper that sort-of doubled as fog lights at night.

Starting in 2018, no Camrys in the US have come with fog lights- granted there were some Toyota-brand ones that people have installed in 2018-2020 Camrys... I'm not sure if those parts came from overseas or if a specific region of the country had them available. There are threads with information about that modification- but it seems like those lights won't fit a 2021 due to the restyled front bumper. There are a few aftermarket options for the 2018-20... but I haven't seen any yet that are made for the 2021 Camry.

I can tell you this- I definitely appreciate that my 2021 Accord still came with fog lights. They do make a difference- even with the excellent LED headlights that come on modern cars.

I wish I could get fogs on my 2021 XLE V6.
Thanks...

 

People who have fog lights don't just use them in fog or bad weather, they have them on all the time. Especially Honda Accord drivers, apparently Honda made an "On" switch but forgot to put in a "Off" switch.

 

I leave my on all the time. Except mine are (were) yellow and they act as my DRL's.

 

So you got the car and THEN realized it didn't have fog lights???

Also, there are aftermarket fog lights available for the '18, '19 and '20...either those lights will work for '21 or there will be some available soon.

 

why hasn't anyone tried mounting some in the grill? like this Flush Mount LED Podlamp Kit For Trucks/SUVs w/ Grille Mesh, (2) 24W CREE LED Pod Lights, Behind Grille Mesh Mount Brackets & Switch Relay Wiring

 

why hasn't anyone tried mounting some in the grill? like this Flush Mount LED Podlamp Kit For Trucks/SUVs w/ Grille Mesh, (2) 24W CREE LED Pod Lights, Behind Grille Mesh Mount Brackets & Switch Relay Wiring

I don't know how those would look on the Camrys; I think Toyota missed an opportunity here to offer fogs on these cars that mount in the far corners of the front fascia, instead of those stupid faux air intakes. What is the point of those, especially when fog lamps could have gone there?

Perhaps the bigger question is...why did Toyota drop fogs for this car anyway?

 

Maybe Toyota thought their customers would complain about an upcharge to install OEM fog lights.

 

It’s a damned if you do, damned if you don’t situation.

Most Camry buyers probably don’t care about fogs and would rather not pay for them. Good thing those who do can get them aftermarket soon (I hope).

 

They probably don't even know they have them.

 

Although, I do wish they had offered them as optional add-ons…but that means they would’ve had to allocate cost to it to have them ready just in case someone wanted them.

 

It's LE vs SE. The X just means more interior and technology options.

 

I find it unfortunate how they tier the different packages/options. Imagine for instance packages/options A, B, C, and D. If you want option B, you need to buy option A also. If you want option C, you need to pay for options A and B in addition to C. Oh, and if you want option D, you also must pay for options A, B and C. So if I just want option D, I need to buy all of them to get what I want.

 

While it may suck, there are multiple ways to make the options more convoluted than they already are.

 

It's a business. They are here to make money and cut cost whenever possible.

To me, no matter what you cannot tell me you would do the same because at the end of the day we are all cheap people.