Picture number 6 with the bluish cylinder and rubber boot is the slave cylinder. The thing it's connected to (pic 5) looks like some sort of adapter or something that runs the line to the flexible hose then to the clutch master cylinder.

 

I think i worked out what that black electrical connector is..it's the VSS (Vehicle Speed Sensor) isnt it? Which means..i have a problem...i'm sure (but not completely sure) than my car uses a cable for speed sensing..correct? So how can I overcome this problem? Anyway to mod it? Or is aftermarket Speedo the only way, or does my car have an electronic speedo?

Thanx

 

Nice tranny. Looks familiar
Gray connector is reverse.
Black is VSS, correct. I think you should be able to take that out and stick your cable in the hole :naughty:
Your shift cables should match up OK. The ones from a 3VZ Camry should work if not. You might have to change your shifter base with the cables.
The other pictures: Accumulator, slave cylinder, and vent, respectively.

 

yes the bracet on the bottem bolts up to the cross member

and the the white one is also a speed sensor it's used by the ecu.

 

1. reverse light sensor
2. vehicle speed sensor

second pic, you need the 2 shifter cables that come from the shifter assembly inside the car.

3rd pic is just a proportioning block that you can use to bleed the clutch lines, nothing more.

4th pic is the slave cylinder itself.

5th pic, i believe its just a loose cap that lets out gases/heat/whatever from inside the tranny. thats the only logical thing i could think of since its not removable. either way i wouldnt waste time thinking about what its for.

and yes, the bracket you see on the bottom of it is the transmission mount which goes to the crossmember.

good luck on the swap! your tranny looks in great shape.

 

Thanx guys...clears up a few things.
How can I find out about the connections of the clutch (like the slave and propotioning block)? How they are connected up.
Second..i.the VSS...is there a way of cnverting that to my cable system (i think mine is a cable)? Or is an aftermarket speedo required? I can't just pull the plug out and stick the cable in there can I like Mobes said :lol:
Anyways..tranny is in great shape..fully reconditioned. Im just going to clean up a few parts with some paint..and should be ready to go.
This is the parts list that I can think of right now that I will need:

1. Shifter cables and base from 3VZ. *Will 3SFE Manual Gen 2 Cables and Base work with that tranny?
2. Clutch/Master Cylinder and Brake Pedal Assembly from Gen 2 4 Cyl.
3. Custom Lines routed from clutch pedal to transmission.
4. Custom Rear Transmission Mount (Possibly the others..but they look close)
5. Fidanza Lightned Flywheel for 2VZFE. (I assume comes with mounting hardware)
6. SPEC Stage II Clutch Kit for 2VZFE. (I assume comes with mounting hardware)
7. Electrical Connections (OEM Toyota) for the Reverse Connector.
8. VSS Output....not yet decided! (Possiblw another connector and new speedo!! doh!)
9. Some misc other bolts, screws, brackets to finish off the job!
10. That resistor box that Ratko made for his swap..I assume mine will be the same?

Can you see any problems with the above setup?
Thanks.

 

You can use the clutch/flywheel from a 1MZ. You can also use a 3S-GTE clutch but not flywheel since the bolt pattern is different.

You should be able to use the gen 2 cables, you might need to shim under the clips though since the 4 cyl. tranny has cast aluminum cable brackets that are thicker.

For the speed sensor, check into the 3SFE manual setup, you might be able to use it.

The resistor box will be the same assuming you have ECT on your auto, if not, you don't need one.

Edit:
Oh, and the clutch/flywheel don't generally come with bolts, you'll need to order those from Toyota.

 

Also, the VSS won't just pull out, you'll need to remove the bolt. But the drive for that should be the same as one one on your speedo cable. If not try the 3S-FE manual cable.

 

Ok Thankx.
Is there any more info on this VSS problem? Like how to remove it properly?
What exactly is this VSS and how does it work? How can I just pull it out.. and plug in my cable?
Secondly..axles..which ones should I be using? I assume the ones I have now probly won't work..seeing as tho there from my auto trans.

Thanks soo much.
:thumbup:

(Oh and my auto is ECT..so i will have to make that box.)

 

The bolt next to the VSS should come out, then just pull on the VSS. It's just a magnetic sensor that pulses with the rotation of the gearbox. It has a little gear on the end like your speedo cable.

The part labled 83770 should plug in where the VSS is now.

 

Ok. Thanks Mobes. Appreciate it.
Any idea's on the axles?
And how about an LSD for the box. What sorta LSD's are avail for this box and how would it be installed? Where is the diff located on this transaxle and how do i get to it.
(This is the first FWD Tranny ive taken apart so..plz bare with me!)

 

And how about an LSD for the box. What sorta LSD's are avail for this box and how would it be installed?

I believe Kazz, Cusco, and Quaife make diffs for a E153.

Where is the diff located on this transaxle and how do i get to it.

The diff is on the backside of the tranny where the axles connect to.

Theres a cover that you can unbolt to get to the diff.

 

Not sure on the axles, I know from experience the my gen 3 auto ones didn't work for my e153 (not safely anyway, they engage but not fully). I'd say look into the axles that would have come in the car if it had the E52 to begin with (the gen2 V6 tranny).

 

Problem with the E52..is that we didnt get them here! Otherwise i'd just put the E52 in!. I need something that will fit from here in Aus..possibly 3vz axles..or hybrid 2vz auto/3vz manual axles or something.

 

Hmm... What about Camry/Solara V6 inner axle with gen 2 V6 outer axle?

Basicly a hybrid axle. In theory it would work. Inner end would mate up with the tranny and the outer end would mate up with the hubs.

 

So getting the 3VZ inner axles..perhaps from where this tranny came from..and finding some gen 2 v6 outers...
same problem..we dont have gen 2 v6 here! Unless i changed the outer to something else?
That would probly mean diff brakes..and wheels etc.
Suggestions?
What about my outer V6 ones i've got now..from the auto? will they mate to the 3vz manual inners?
Custom?

 

^ Sorry for the confusion.

Gen 2 V6 outer axle meaning your existing axles.

Inner axles from a 1MZ-FE with manual tranny (E153) might work too. Something else for you to look into.

 

Ahh that make much more sense. My existing out axles with 1MZ or 3VZ inners..perfect. Theoreticlly!
Thanx guys.

 

I took out the VSS. Piece of cake. The actual unit is quite long and the mount is involved. I've never seen the speedo cable from my Gen 2 near the auto trans..but does it have the same sortoff mounting and seal as the VSS does? The VSS has an o-ring around it too. Does the cable have the same sorta setup..where I could just put it in and do the bolt up?
I was thinking that I may need to change the gear on it too, are they different, or does toyota use universal ratio. Thanks.

 

Jetspeed,

Would you mind filling in a novice what you're up to?

 

Jetspeed,

Would you mind filling in a novice what you're up to?

If you read the whole thread, you would see that he's trying to put an E153 manual transmission into his auto V6 gen2 Camry... I wish him luck.

Jetspeed - don't worry about the resistor box just yet. You might not need to fool the ECU about the transmission. Even if you did, it would just throw a check engine light - the motor would still run.

All the manual tranny stuff on the body side (pedals, shift linkage, master cylinder/resivoir) should work with the new tranny. You might have to make a custom hose to go from the gen2 clutch line to the E153 line.

Make sure you do your research on which clutch and flywheel to use... And I hope you are ready to be without your car for a while when trying to complete this project.



-Charlie

 

Hey White90DX. Yeah im willing for the car to be off the road for a while. However, i'm not going to start ANYTHING on my car until i've got ALL the parts i need and have learned and researched every part of what i intend to do.

I wont make anything like the resistor box yet, until im happy that the engine/tranny, once done, is working properly. Then we can clean up the aesthetics.

She shouldn't be too hard a swap..maybe customs lines, and custom mounts, but apart from that, all the available parts should go together. I haven't tackled a project like this on my own before, so it will be an awesome experience, and a very rewarding one too!

500KCamry, as White90DX said, read the whole thread to find out all the info, but basically, my Gen 2 has the 2VZFE V6. It uses the A540E auto trans at the moment. I want to make it manual. We don't have E52 trans here in Aus, so i found a 3VZ E153 trans that i will mate to my engine. Fidanaza flywheel and SPEC clutch will be used, also probobly a hybrid axle setup (3VZ inner, 2VZ outter.)

Thanx everyone for your support.

(Any ideas about my last post about the VSS and cable gear configuration for the 2VZ/3SFE?)

 

Jetspeed,

Thanks. LOL - I did sift through the thread and still missed why you were doing the change. The tranny numbers are new to me.

You're an ambitious one aren't you? But at least you're doing your homework and seeking good advice in advance, now that's smart

Good luck on your project.

 

Any ideas about my last post about the VSS and cable gear configuration for the 2VZ/3SFE?

From my 3S-FE with A140E tranny:

Speedo cable on the tranny
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Piece that goes inside the tranny
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Speedo cable from firewall
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Theres a cable that connects between the firewall and the piece that goes inside the tranny. I didn't take a pic of it.

The piece that goes into the tranny has a clip and o-ring. Theres also a bolt and little metal tab that bolts the piece to the tranny.

Metal tab fits into a groove in the piece (2nd picture) that goes into the tranny.

 

Thanks 88LE. Judging by the size of the piece that goes into the tranny, should work fine. The VSS is pretty much that size. And the tab that mounts it to the tranny (1st pic) is the same (12mm bolt?). So looks like where in buisness.
The number of teeth on the speedo gear, is it a universal thing?
Just that my speedo is 150mph max..the I4 is 130mph..so if my gear doesnt work on in the transmission, putting the A140E gear in will make my speedo off.
In anycase, where certainly on our way!