What do you guys think? Can it be done?
Tony the Tiger
some good discussion in the past;
http://www.toyotanation.com/viewtopic.php?p=74074&highlight=bank+turbo#74074
For a pic of the Engine bay, copy and paste link;
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid27/p9371d502d71911dc6607b93486b24530/fd726d94.jpg.orig.jpg
http://www.toyotanation.com/viewtopic.php?p=74074&highlight=bank+turbo#74074
For a pic of the Engine bay, copy and paste link;
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid27/p9371d502d71911dc6607b93486b24530/fd726d94.jpg.orig.jpg
I can tell you that using all six cylinders to power a single turbo is possible 
It's looking great in my engine bay :thumbup:
It's looking great in my engine bay :thumbup:Thanks Phi.
Looks like there would be enough room at the front for a small turbo (though you may have to use a slimmer fan), dunno about the back. If its like pretty much any other longitudanal FF motor then the firewall is gonna be awfully close. Packaging for the I/C piping is tight unless you were to relocate the battery and lose the A/C. A custom FMIC that has 2 inlets on the passenger side and the exit on the drivers side running up to the TB would be the best solution I can come up with. Or, top mount with 2 inlets but that would necessitate cutting a bigass hole in the hood.
Thats the best that I can come up with. It would be so much easier if the cam was rwd.
Looks like there would be enough room at the front for a small turbo (though you may have to use a slimmer fan), dunno about the back. If its like pretty much any other longitudanal FF motor then the firewall is gonna be awfully close. Packaging for the I/C piping is tight unless you were to relocate the battery and lose the A/C. A custom FMIC that has 2 inlets on the passenger side and the exit on the drivers side running up to the TB would be the best solution I can come up with. Or, top mount with 2 inlets but that would necessitate cutting a bigass hole in the hood.
Thats the best that I can come up with. It would be so much easier if the cam was rwd.
Tony the Tiger said:I can tell you that using all six cylinders to power a single turbo is possible
Dammit lets see some pics? Where do you have the turbo hanging? How the hell did you route the piping? What did you sacrifice?
btw, Gran Nationals and Chevy V8's have been running single turbos for a while, its the packaging that would pose the problem. But I'm sure you know that, haha.
AC shouldn't be a prob, stock hydraulic fan could be used, and nothing should be sacrificed. There seems to be plenty of room to route the IC piping, but I bet things would get tricky to be plumbing both cylinders to power the turbo.
Of course, I would dream of a setup like that... and today is my lucky day 8)
Of course, I would dream of a setup like that... and today is my lucky day 8)
Damn, ran out of bandwidth... well, here are some teaser pics
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I haven't add up the total of the complete project, but they are mainly parts and piping. I installed and designed the whole install myself, and I had a professional welder to piece together my "spot-welded" piping The intercooler core was custom made and so were the endtanks, but the piping for the intercooler was done myself as well. If you plan to get a shop to do all this work for you, you are probably looking at $8000+ CAD because I have spent months on this project.
I haven't add up the total of the complete project, but they are mainly parts and piping. I installed and designed the whole install myself, and I had a professional welder to piece together my "spot-welded" piping
The intercooler core was custom made and so were the endtanks, but the piping for the intercooler was done myself as well. If you plan to get a shop to do all this work for you, you are probably looking at $8000+ CAD because I have spent months on this project.
Tony, I've seen your photoshop work (Viper engine in your GSR). This is your best work ever. Unless I hear the BOV with my own ears, I ain't play the fool :lol:
If it is fo' real
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It's been awhile since the monkey came out, but I think this occasion is quite fitting.
So the fact that it's all custom, can I assume there aren't any jigs avail to reproduce?
If it is fo' real
So the fact that it's all custom, can I assume there aren't any jigs avail to reproduce?
Did you beef up your tranny? or have plans too?
I'm still having a hard time coming to terms with you going forced induction. You've been such a vocal supporter of "all motor" Sellout!
Where's your battery? What are some of the other hurdles you had to contend with?
I'm still having a hard time coming to terms with you going forced induction. You've been such a vocal supporter of "all motor" Sellout!
Where's your battery? What are some of the other hurdles you had to contend with?
I almost still don't believe it after seeing your site... ...that's insane!!! :thumbup: :thumbup: Geez, you already have a 12 sec n/a Integra...isn't that enough?? Sooo...is the car driveable yet?
I kinda wondered if you would do it after seeing your avitar change into a turbo one day!
...that's insane!!! :thumbup: :thumbup: Geez, you already have a 12 sec n/a Integra...isn't that enough?? Sooo...is the car driveable yet?I kinda wondered if you would do it after seeing your avitar change into a turbo one day!
Thanks for the props everyone! I couldn't believe it either until one day I got my hands on a Supra CT-26 turbo for almost nothing... Having a lot of experience after buiding up my Integra, I was ready to move onto the Camry and started messing around with it
There were weeks of planning out where the piping would go... I have built many replicas of piping from PCV pipes and had the basic layout of how the piping would look like. During the planning, I had to move a lot of parts around the engine bay to let the piping squeeze through certain areas with adequate clearances between the pipes. Big things include the battery, cruise control module, throttle pulley assembly, stock power steering cooler, and many hard lines had to be redone as well, etc... Then I ordered a bunch of mandrel stainless "U" bends and straight pieces in different sizes and copied the PCV replica. I had the connections spot welded and then bolted up the piping together, checking for adequate clearances and made sure everything bolted up. The final welding was done by a buddy of mine who was a professional welder and a machinist. You can read more about it on my webpage (if it gets back online again).
The result after the turbo was amazing. Not to knock on any TRD Supercharger guys, but the turbo was a completely different league in comparison... Phenomenal torque, especially in an automatic with a level 10 converter. There was no lag at all since I would get full 7 lb of boost at 1500RPM... that's almost off idle. It reminds me of my supercharged EL where there is virtually no lag and no hesitation before boost at all. Once I mash the gas, it's instant boost. It's probably from the fact that this turbo was made for the MKIII Supra to spool around 2500RPM; however, the Supra's CR was 8.4:1 and the 1MZ-FE is at 10.5:1, and that makes a huge difference in the expansion of exhaust gases down at lower RPM's.
The car hasn't been fully tuned yet. At first, the car would stall out everytime the blow-off valve sounded. I realized that my Apexi SAFC has a function to correct the airflow values after the boost has vented to the atmosphere. That means I don't have to run a bypass valve and was able to run a real blow-off valve to scare some ricers 8) As for fuel curve tuning, I have the SAFC, Vortech FMU, and static FPR to tune the fuel. I still have to tune it more because the transition between vacuum and boost causes the car to big a bit -- probably because the FMU takes over as there is boost and there is a tad too much fuel.
As for the tranny, hope the dual tranny coolers and increased line pressure will help hold onto the added power. I also installed a transmission temperature gauge to monitor the temperature in case it gets excessively hot if it ever slips too much, The higher stall torque converter really helps as well in terms of traction off the line.
And of course, the blow off valve is loud as hell... that's all I can say :lol:
Can I say I am the first and only turbocharged Camry V6?
Anyway, more pics coming soon... I have so much cleaning to do both in my garage, and in the engine bay!
There were weeks of planning out where the piping would go... I have built many replicas of piping from PCV pipes and had the basic layout of how the piping would look like. During the planning, I had to move a lot of parts around the engine bay to let the piping squeeze through certain areas with adequate clearances between the pipes. Big things include the battery, cruise control module, throttle pulley assembly, stock power steering cooler, and many hard lines had to be redone as well, etc... Then I ordered a bunch of mandrel stainless "U" bends and straight pieces in different sizes and copied the PCV replica. I had the connections spot welded and then bolted up the piping together, checking for adequate clearances and made sure everything bolted up. The final welding was done by a buddy of mine who was a professional welder and a machinist. You can read more about it on my webpage (if it gets back online again).
The result after the turbo was amazing. Not to knock on any TRD Supercharger guys, but the turbo was a completely different league in comparison... Phenomenal torque, especially in an automatic with a level 10 converter. There was no lag at all since I would get full 7 lb of boost at 1500RPM... that's almost off idle. It reminds me of my supercharged EL where there is virtually no lag and no hesitation before boost at all. Once I mash the gas, it's instant boost. It's probably from the fact that this turbo was made for the MKIII Supra to spool around 2500RPM; however, the Supra's CR was 8.4:1 and the 1MZ-FE is at 10.5:1, and that makes a huge difference in the expansion of exhaust gases down at lower RPM's.
The car hasn't been fully tuned yet. At first, the car would stall out everytime the blow-off valve sounded. I realized that my Apexi SAFC has a function to correct the airflow values after the boost has vented to the atmosphere. That means I don't have to run a bypass valve and was able to run a real blow-off valve to scare some ricers 8) As for fuel curve tuning, I have the SAFC, Vortech FMU, and static FPR to tune the fuel. I still have to tune it more because the transition between vacuum and boost causes the car to big a bit -- probably because the FMU takes over as there is boost and there is a tad too much fuel.
As for the tranny, hope the dual tranny coolers and increased line pressure will help hold onto the added power. I also installed a transmission temperature gauge to monitor the temperature in case it gets excessively hot if it ever slips too much, The higher stall torque converter really helps as well in terms of traction off the line.
And of course, the blow off valve is loud as hell... that's all I can say :lol:
Can I say I am the first and only turbocharged Camry V6?
Anyway, more pics coming soon... I have so much cleaning to do both in my garage, and in the engine bay!
tony. you are my God. I prostrate myself before you and your car.
there is light at the end of that tunnel for me now....
pish! and they said that man would never fly.....
there is light at the end of that tunnel for me now....
pish! and they said that man would never fly.....
May I say how much I envy u and respect you for ur work! I have been planning on turbo charging my 3vz since I got it and still just havent worked up the money and then when I had enough I had to rebuild the engine and that sucked the money out of my pocket! I now am looking at the vortec setup by RIPP and hope to be the first vortec supercharged Gen 3 V6 camry but you never know! I have always wanted to do a custom turbo setup but i was looking at 5,000 for it and thats jsut not possible for me plus finding the right people to do it and ending up with a fine running enigne is in the hands of a lot of what ifs!
Thats amazing man and now there is one more place I have to travel to beat u when myn is done! :thumbup:
People...respect is the one word that comes to mind! I have looked into a turbo hard and even though its a differnt engine the work and drive is still there! I respect you to the fullest man and congrads I hope everything works out for ya....and keep up the excellent camry work! Ur car is a model of the camry scene....because the camry racing scene(that a lot of people say isnt there) is the determination that we have to better ourselfs and be origonal and do something to our engines that has never been tried! Thats What we as a group have over other car owners is the determination to show the world what camrys are all about and how much we can over come no parts and custom parts to get to where we hope to be!
You my friend are a person that Im gonna have to meet. See its people like all us camry owners that strive to be the best of not camrys but all cars and struggle to get parts and work to help others that make the camry nation grow, and that inspire other camry owners to get passed that no part phase of gloom and doom and learn that custom means cash but also respect when its all said and done!
:thumbup: I WANT TONS OF PICS FROM EVERY ANGLE AND EVERY PIPE!!!!
Thats amazing man and now there is one more place I have to travel to beat u when myn is done! :thumbup:
People...respect is the one word that comes to mind! I have looked into a turbo hard and even though its a differnt engine the work and drive is still there! I respect you to the fullest man and congrads I hope everything works out for ya....and keep up the excellent camry work! Ur car is a model of the camry scene....because the camry racing scene(that a lot of people say isnt there) is the determination that we have to better ourselfs and be origonal and do something to our engines that has never been tried! Thats What we as a group have over other car owners is the determination to show the world what camrys are all about and how much we can over come no parts and custom parts to get to where we hope to be!
You my friend are a person that Im gonna have to meet. See its people like all us camry owners that strive to be the best of not camrys but all cars and struggle to get parts and work to help others that make the camry nation grow, and that inspire other camry owners to get passed that no part phase of gloom and doom and learn that custom means cash but also respect when its all said and done!
:thumbup: I WANT TONS OF PICS FROM EVERY ANGLE AND EVERY PIPE!!!!
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