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Hello all, Im going to be adding some rims to my vehicle soon and would also like to upgrade from my OEM pads and disk. Any good brands you have in mind or a typical style i should be looking for like slotted ? drilled? and so forth? I have performed this mod on my jeep before and i purchased a performance kit from Summit racing but i am unaware for my camry.
 
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I'm sure Centric (Powerslot, Stoptech, etc.), Hawk and EBC offer pads and/or rotors (didn't check Brembo). The 2012 Daytona Camry SE Pace Car has this BBK made by Stoptech, but I believe its a one-off. I don't think TRD made any parts for the new Camry...
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for your camry, i would get centric rotors(or stoptech, or powerslot - all the same company).

Heres a setup i had on my SE-R and the same i would get if/when i ever need to upgrade brakes on my camry

I had powerslot slotted brake rotors front and back. I was contemplating between the slotted and drilled but opted for slotted because some people complain the drilled makes a noise when just going down the road, so screw that.

As for brake pads, I used Stoptech performance 309 compound on my SE-R. I love them, they gripped without ever fading. They let off alot of dust but were quiet and had tons of grip. They dont seem to make them for our camry yet, so if i were buying today i would get the Hawk HPS. Only like $65 bucks for the fronts. I have a setup on a tundra that is the powerslot slotted and the Hawk LTS (truck pads) and they are sweet, tons of grip, no fade at all even when towing, so i would definitely get Hawk HPS pads for my camry.

100% stay AWAY from EBC. We have yellowstuff (their top of the line towing pads) on our truck that we tow a boat with and they are the noisiest things ever and they dont even stop that well. In fact, they almost stop worse than the stock pads did. I used a different set of EBCs before on a different vehicle and they stopped better but were noisy (and they let off a ton of dust, but i dont care about dust)
 
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You guys are AWARE '10-11 Scion tC front brake rotors are compatible to '12 Camry??????? 11.6 diameter.

Which makes me believe; what are the odds of TC TRD BBK kit could work on a Camry.

This is hell lot of money but I seen Lexus F-Sport BBK on a Scion tC (tC owner is on Scionlife & said it worked like a champ. Just needed wheel spacers for the OEM wheels.) Reason why I'm bringing this up: Weight on ISF or IS 350/250 is closer to the ballpark to Camry. Hell, the rear BBK is even compatible with both ISF and Camry having 11.1 diameter rotors. That's if you wanna track down a modded "part out" IS and guy selling his kits or just spend $6000-7000 for brand new.

Although, O'Reily is saying ISF front rotors aren't the same size. The tC owner might of installed F-Sport calipers and bought brand new rotors to make them work.

I'll try to hunt down that thread on Scionlife. I think having that F-Sport setup would look really neat on a SE Camry.
 
#8 ·
You guys are AWARE '10-11 Scion tC front brake rotors are compatible to '12 Camry??????? 11.6 diameter.

Which makes me believe; what are the odds of TC TRD BBK kit could work on a Camry.

Although, O'Reily is saying ISF front rotors aren't the same size. The tC owner might of installed F-Sport calipers and bought brand new rotors to make them work.

I'll try to hunt down that thread on Scionlife. I think having that F-Sport setup would look really neat on a SE Camry.
Oh cool i didnt know they had the same size fronts as the scion tC. I'm surprised the IS-F has such small rear rotors, but i have changed front brakes on an IS-F and i know for a fact they are wayyyy bigger than the camry's. somewhere around 13-14+" range. If you find that thread it would be a cool read!
 
#7 ·
not planning to upgrade my rotors, but I believe all performance rotors and calipers for gen 6-6.5 will fit gen 7. I've seen tread on oversea camry forum, they swapping same parts on gen 6 and asian gen 7 camry. doubt american camry got different rotors or calipers.
 
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Too bad, the poster deleted photos of him doing his minor modding.
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I had EBC 3GD rotors with Redstuff pads on my old tC. The rotors actually keep the gold-ish color even after driven in couple of winters. Yeah, they can be somewhat squeaky but you sure see a better braking performance than OEM. You have to make sure to break them in or you'll really have horrible squeaks. Redstuff pads don't really produce dust; my rims were quite clean. I actually had problems switching back to basic braking setup when I bought my xB last year.

I'll probably will buy Ultimax rotors for the Camry when I have to replace brakes.
 
#12 ·
I had EBC 3GD rotors with Redstuff pads on my old tC. The rotors actually keep the gold-ish color even after driven in couple of winters. Yeah, they can be somewhat squeaky but you sure see a better braking performance than OEM. You have to make sure to break them in or you'll really have horrible squeaks. Redstuff pads don't really produce dust; my rims were quite clean. I actually had problems switching back to basic braking setup when I bought my xB last year.

I'll probably will buy Ultimax rotors for the Camry when I have to replace brakes.
Cool thanks for those links!

Yea the redstuff is supposed to be pretty good for low dust. And thats cool the rotors stayed gold! i thought those were just like a brake in coating like what they put on the pads.

And the break in is what i think is wrong with the Yellowstuffs. So i broke them in by doing EBCs procedure, they were super sticky and no noise. Next day, tons of noise. everyday from then, tons of noise. What i think is happening to me with the Yellowstuffs is under normal driving conditions and even when towing, the pads do not get hot enough to reach their optimal operation temperature. It may seem like they would when towing 3000-4000 pounds but the trailer has brakes that brake at 70% so when in the vehicle you can barely notice its back there when stopping. So basically i think the Yellowstuffs are just too high of a performance pad for normal street driving and even the frequent towing i do.
 
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anybody can confirm that scion TC or gen 6 camry front rotors fit US built gen 7 camry?
I've seen some info on oversea camry forum stating that gen 6 and 7 got identical rotors, but not sure about US spec camry.
I start noticing slight vibration on the steering wheel when braking hard form 75-80 MPH down to 50-60.
looks like OEM rotors getting warped. not planning to bother dealer about warranty repair/replacement- sooner or later they gonna go bad anyway. it's not a first case when OEM rotors getting warped, looks like all late toyota cars have pretty weak rotors.
I'm looking to get Wagner Thermo Quiet pads- had them before on 3 different cars and never had any issues with them.
rotors wise thinking about DBA gold slotted rotor. they got great reviews and fit my price range.
according to DBA charts they don't make anything for 12' camry, but make few models for gen 6-6.5 camry.
I stopped by at the local dealership and asked parts department guy to see if gen 6.5 rotors identical to gen 7 rotors. according to him gen 7 rotors slightly bigger and got different pert number. he couldn't tell how much bigger and assumed that gen 6 rotors might fit but he couldn't guarantee that.
so anyone can confirm that gen 6 rotors will work fine on gen 7 camry?
 
#14 ·
Rotors don't warp; it's uneven pad transfer onto the disc surface from bad braking habits. When you come to a hard stop at a light, either creep forward a few times to avoid creating high spots on the rotors where the hot pads are burning off onto the rotor surface, or disengage the brakes entirely (neutral/parking brake). Avoid coasting down hills with your foot on the brake (this will glaze your pads), or sudden braking applications.

Slotted rotors may look cool, but they eat up pads and don't provide ANY stopping benefit. Unless you're driving a performance car where the initial pedal bite matters a lot, don't bother.

Try some ceramic pads - little braking dust, great bite, and they handle heat better than the semi-metallic pads that are OEM on most cars so they won't cause that juddering effect when you stop again. Akebono and Hawk make some great brake pads.

Most importantly, please break in your new brakes correctly - look at the rotor and pad recommendations for the procedure, as some differ from others and some do not require a break-in bedding.

Here's a great article about the "myth" of warped rotors:
http://www.stoptech.com/technical-support/technical-white-papers/-warped-brake-disc-and-other-myths
 
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Rotors don't warp; it's uneven pad transfer onto the disc surface from bad braking habits. When you come to a hard stop at a light, either creep forward a few times to avoid creating high spots on the rotors where the hot pads are burning off onto the rotor surface, or disengage the brakes entirely (neutral/parking brake). Avoid coasting down hills with your foot on the brake (this will glaze your pads), or sudden braking applications.
for some reason my 2001 camry OEM rotors lasted 60K.
not sure if it's my braking habits or low quality rotors but NAPA Gold rotors were good after 40K on my 2007 camry which came with bad OEM rotors. same with my friend's 2007 ES350, 2010 and 2012 Camry.
I brake hard time to time due to traffic conditions and TX heat ain't easy on brakes too, but like I said i know alot of people in TX and other states who had similar problem around 15-30K miles.

Slotted rotors may look cool, but they eat up pads and don't provide ANY stopping benefit. Unless you're driving a performance car where the initial pedal bite matters a lot, don't bother.
I'm not going for the look. I believe slotted rotors improve stopping a bit and less likely to warp.
don't really care about pads life iether. Wagner ThermoQuiet will last me 50+K even on slotted rotors.

Try some ceramic pads - little braking dust, great bite, and they handle heat better than the semi-metallic pads that are OEM on most cars so they won't cause that juddering effect when you stop again. Akebono and Hawk make some great brake pads.
I'm getting ceramic Wagner pads. Had them before: low dust, never heard a squeak from them and on my 2001 camry they lasted 50K and were only 50-60% worn.

Most importantly, please break in your new brakes correctly - look at the rotor and pad recommendations for the procedure, as some differ from others and some do not require a break-in bedding.
yep, I know about it.
not sure thought if my 12' camry brakes got broken in- cat came from another dealer and been driven before me.
 
#16 ·
I'm not going for the look. I believe slotted rotors improve stopping a bit and less likely to warp.
don't really care about pads life iether. Wagner ThermoQuiet will last me 50+K even on slotted rotors.
Be forewarned...they make some really, really weird noises when you brake. If you hate that whirring sound now with warped rotors, that's what they'll sound like.

But yeah, less surface area =/= better stopping. Better cooling, sure...if you drive aggressively on mountain roads. Otherwise, you can just keep your pads from holding the same spot on the disc when stopped to avoid that occurrence.

I think the OEM's do use cheap-quality parts these days - or they aren't "bedded in" properly from the factory. A friend's brand-new RAV4 just had them resurfaced at 8,000 miles.
 
#17 ·
Be forewarned...they make some really, really weird noises when you brake. If you hate that whirring sound now with warped rotors, that's what they'll sound like.
oops, I want no noise...
what kind noise they make? grinding, whining?
I drove Porsche once with slotted and drilled rotors- didn't hear anything, but Porsche isn't exactly a quiet car...
But yeah, less surface area =/= better stopping. Better cooling, sure...if you drive aggressively on mountain roads. Otherwise, you can just keep your pads from holding the same spot on the disc when stopped to avoid that occurrence.
better cooling and edges of the slots make big difference.

I think the OEM's do use cheap-quality parts these days - or they aren't "bedded in" properly from the factory. A friend's brand-new RAV4 just had them resurfaced at 8,000 miles.
from my experience and from what I've heard from mechanics resurfacing is temporary fix only and if rotors ever been overheated or warped they no good no matter how many times they would get resurfaced.
happened to me, to my brother in law and few more people I know, so I prefer to get new rotors instead of resurfacing old once.
 
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oops, I want no noise...
what kind noise they make? grinding, whining?
I drove Porsche once with slotted and drilled rotors- didn't hear anything, but Porsche isn't exactly a quiet car...

better cooling and edges of the slots make big difference.


from my experience and from what I've heard from mechanics resurfacing is temporary fix only and if rotors ever been overheated or warped they no good no matter how many times they would get resurfaced.
happened to me, to my brother in law and few more people I know, so I prefer to get new rotors instead of resurfacing old once.
I agree - I never resurface them. But it's what they covered under warranty.

They make just kinda a rumbling/whirring sound. I had slotted/cross-drilled ones like these. LOVED the look, but they were noisy when coming to a moderate - hard stop.

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^What direction did you have the slots pointing? My slotted dont make any noise. I have used the PowerStop slotted rotors a couple times, on a camry, a semi-performance car that had 14.5" rotors, and my friend uses them on a '10 tundra (but i drive it alot and tow a boat with it often). No noise at all in any of them. I know drilled can make a sound when braking similar to a baseball card in a bike tire (so i've heard, I read that and specifically didnt buy the drilled/slotted rotors). But I definitely have used the PowerStop slotted rotors (non-cryo) and they didnt make any noise at all. But maybe I just have gotten lucky so far lol. If I ever have to replace my brakes it will be w/ the PowerStop slotted and either hawk or stoptech 309 compound. I dont want ceramic pads - Personally I'd rather have better stopping power w/ a lot of dust on the rims. And the slotted rotors help relieve heat faster. Maybe it helps the longevity of the rotor itself because it disperses the heat instead of heating up the pads causing unever build up? But like you said, in a Camry, the only time you probably would notice the less brake fade (although thats dependent on pads as well) would be after dragging your brakes down a hill to a red light that you have to stop at. Then you should not feel like you have to jam your petal in to get the car to stop. Should feel more under control. And i agree w/ molson, i dont mind having a shorter pad life as long as my stopping power is there (which is should be better). But in all reality, the rotors on the Camry are tiny, so theres only so much you can do lol. You can only try to make what you have better.

j-BTW, is that your S2000?
 
#20 ·
May have been. I had drilled rotors on another car though and they weren't noisy at all, so I attributed it to the slots. Shrug.

I would never buy an S2000 - the peaky high-revving engine annoys me too much - but it is an impressive bit of engineering. Although thats not my car (mine was blue, with the same wheels and brakes, but no picture with me at the moment), I had a 2008 335i for 11 months right out of college. There was constantly something wrong with it and it was a huge gas hog in my commute. And took up too much of my paycheck playing around with it.

I've now got a 1975 BMW 2002 as a project/fun car that I just put a rebuilt engine into. I love it.


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May have been. I had drilled rotors on another car though and they weren't noisy at all, so I attributed it to the slots. Shrug.

I would never buy an S2000 - the peaky high-revving engine annoys me too much - but it is an impressive bit of engineering. Although thats not my car (mine was blue, with the same wheels and brakes, but no picture with me at the moment), I had a 2008 335i for 11 months right out of college. There was constantly something wrong with it and it was a huge gas hog in my commute. And took up too much of my paycheck playing around with it.

I've now got a 1975 BMW 2002 as a project/fun car that I just put a rebuilt engine into. I love it.
hm..i guess it depends on what brand you get then lol. What your saying about your 335i is something I have heard often. And bcus its all computerized, it has to go to the dealer for the simplest things that constantly go wrong.

I just google image searched what that is - that thing is crazy! Haha very Europian looking for sure. Looks pretty small in the pics. It looks awesome, your going to be an attention grabber when you get it going! What color is it/is it going to be?
 
#22 ·
OEM Toyota pads are pretty good already. Unless you are going Akebono (OEM on some Toyotas) or Hawk, some of those other brands are a step down IMO. IIRC, the OEM ones are ceramic.
 
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longbeach, i looked into an oe source for bigger brakes a while ago. The Venza/highlander front rotors are a direct bolt on, with no spacers necessary. They are approx. 1" larger in diameter than the camry stockers. the next logical step would be a better caliper, perhaps a 4 piston factory unit. the on from the tacoma stood out at me. the venza/highlander front caliper would work as well, but the necessity for a caliper bracket with them as they are only 2 piston seems like a waste if you can do a 4 piston the same way. the next step then is lines, which you will inevitably have to make yourself, or source somewhere. these are not hard to make, really. the biggest hurdle that i can see is probably going to be under the hood. with that much piston surface area you will need more brake fluid-this means a better master cylinder. this is probably the most overlooked component of a brake system. if you have more piston surface area, you need the fluid to support it. i haven't really looked in to this so much.

finally, and maybe the biggest issue overall is the ABS. with the new star safety thing you will run the risk of really effing up the ABS computer, particularly the VSC, TRAC, and panic brake assist. Better stopping power is great on the track and the street, but there is likely a reason papa toyota is getting on with pulling all the bbk's right now, and something tells moi its a computer issue with the star safety program.

I believe with the f sport brakes, there is a software update done on lexus'. this overcomes any issue with star safety. perhaps this will be in our future. until then, though, perhaps some creative bracketry for the calipers and a drilled/slotted venza front rotor with some hawk hps camry pads would be the most cost effective and useful brake upgrade. the size increase of the rotor alone would be a HUGE benefit to fade and stopping distance. Although-the addition in sprung weight is questionable.

Oh yeah-I'll say the same thing here as I've always said about brakes.

If you want to stop better, you don't need better brakes, you need better tires. Get better rubber first-that's what really stops the car. Then if that doesn't tickle your fancy, do something crazy!

Good luck, as I've been hoping someone here would get into brakes more than I have-but it seems that for the most part, it's going to be hit or miss with aftermarket stuff and oe upgrades for the tc and is.

oh yeah-the caliper for the tc 2 is mounted differently than the gen7 camry, so that leaves any aftermarket option for a direct bolt on based on the tc alone. it would be nice if toyota would use a few more similar parts.
 
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longbeach, i looked into an oe source for bigger brakes a while ago. The Venza/highlander front rotors are a direct bolt on, with no spacers necessary. They are approx. 1" larger in diameter than the camry stockers. the next logical step would be a better caliper, perhaps a 4 piston factory unit. the on from the tacoma stood out at me. the venza/highlander front caliper would work as well, but the necessity for a caliper bracket with them as they are only 2 piston seems like a waste if you can do a 4 piston the same way. the next step then is lines, which you will inevitably have to make yourself, or source somewhere. these are not hard to make, really. the biggest hurdle that i can see is probably going to be under the hood. with that much piston surface area you will need more brake fluid-this means a better master cylinder. this is probably the most overlooked component of a brake system. if you have more piston surface area, you need the fluid to support it. i haven't really looked in to this so much.

finally, and maybe the biggest issue overall is the ABS. with the new star safety thing you will run the risk of really effing up the ABS computer, particularly the VSC, TRAC, and panic brake assist. Better stopping power is great on the track and the street, but there is likely a reason papa toyota is getting on with pulling all the bbk's right now, and something tells moi its a computer issue with the star safety program.

I believe with the f sport brakes, there is a software update done on lexus'. this overcomes any issue with star safety. perhaps this will be in our future. until then, though, perhaps some creative bracketry for the calipers and a drilled/slotted venza front rotor with some hawk hps camry pads would be the most cost effective and useful brake upgrade. the size increase of the rotor alone would be a HUGE benefit to fade and stopping distance. Although-the addition in sprung weight is questionable.

Oh yeah-I'll say the same thing here as I've always said about brakes.

If you want to stop better, you don't need better brakes, you need better tires. Get better rubber first-that's what really stops the car. Then if that doesn't tickle your fancy, do something crazy!

oh yeah-the caliper for the tc 2 is mounted differently than the gen7 camry, so that leaves any aftermarket option for a direct bolt on based on the tc alone. it would be nice if toyota would use a few more similar parts.
Most if not all OEM BigBrakeKits you can buy do not include any master cylinder upgrade - nor any software update. Although you can probably maximize the capability of the BBK mod by doing so, its not a required component by any means. Like you said, the increase in rotor size alone would make the biggest difference.
Speaking of which, brake rotors are actually considered UNsprung weight, as the engine is required to turn them to get the car moving. But the Venza rotors are only 1.5 lbs (approximately) heavier than those on the Camry, so its not really a big deal.
As far as G2 Scion TC brake parts, I have previously confirmed with the dealer - (via part #s) they use the same exact rotors, calipers and pads as the Camry so, any BBK kits made for either car should be interchangeable between both cars with little to no fuss. A simple bracket would easily solve any issues you may run into.
As far as ABS issues, you may be right depending on how big you decide to go with upgrade, and how aggressive you drive after the fact. I believe with a modest brake/tire upgrade (and you don't track the car weekly) the abs system will run just fine with regular service and maintenance.
 
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EBCs make slotted rotors for Gen 7s. They are pretty good for the price. 190 bucks for two (estimate price)"Redstuff" brake pads give you even better stopping ability and they don't even produce brake dust!

I had 3GD rotors on my old tC. They didn't even rust and kept the gold color around the center.

I'm going to switch to them once I need new brakes. But I'm going to get Ulitmax ones this time.
 
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looks the same as powerslot rotors which i have used and absolutely love. the posi-quiet brake pads are centric. I have those on the front axle of my brother's 02 and they are nice and quiet. check tire-rack's pricing on them - for $211 i dont think tire rack would be far out, maybe they would be like $230-ish, but the shipping is another $20+ from tirerack, making the eBay that much cheaper.

i've never heard of r1 concept, and i dont like that they can't update their ad if it in fact does fit the 12-13 camrys. tire rack has the (bigger) name brand stuff for $240 before shipping - and thats guaranteed to fit, and if you need to return them for any reason (fitment/untrue/idk lol) i would much rather deal w/ tire rack...but tire rack is going to be $50+ more...you have something to think about!

You looking at getting new brakes because yours are worn out, or just because?
 
#32 ·
I thought I read somewhere that the caliper mounting brackets from an IS250 are interchangeable with the Camry. Well, the IS350 calipers are a direct bolt on for the IS250. Therefor, wouldn't it be safe to say IS350 rotors and calipers would bolt right up to our Camry?

I know it's not a huge difference but if you can pick up a set of IS350 brakes for a couple hundred bucks...why not?!
 
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Im not too sure about this.. Lexus IS and GS calipers are mounted on the back side (or to the right of the rotor if you are looking at it from the side)of the rotor where as Camry are mounted on the front side of the rotor (or to the left of the rotor if you are looking at it from the side)... does that make any difference>>
 
#33 ·
are you guys racing your camrys or something?i cant image how drilled and slotted rotors are needed other wise other then just to brag.

my motorcycle does 160mph and I use the factory brakes and they work pretty well.
 
#35 ·
LOL no, definitely not racing. For me, slotted doesn't fade as much or as quickly. Real world application for me would be stop and go traffic going 45+ to a stop over and over again on a 100 degree day. I've noticed a drastic difference on a different car in this application. That vehicle was also a sports car, with 14.5" rotors, for whatever that is worth. Also, i would be lying if i didn't say another solid reason for me to get slotted would be because they look cool :D but if your going to replace, might as well upgrade for the little extra money. going slotted can't hurt any at least. Thats all in my train of thought.
 
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#36 ·
i live in houston one of the hottest cities during the summer. I havent experienced any brake fade and we have major traffic here.its still over 90 and high humidity today.

just wondering...

now if your trying to build a ricer..... slotted and drilled rotors,painted 6 piston calipers,carbon brake pads. lol
 
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Old thread but I wanted to reply to since this is something I disagree with. I live in Houston too, but I'm looking for something for more braking power for the exact reason Great Avalon mentioned. My past cars were 04' R32 and 07' STI, those both had phenomenal brakes from the factory, and coming from those cars I really feel the difference. They all weigh about the same as well. Toyota could've done a little bit better in this area, or maybe I was just spoiled by my past cars.
 
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I was just giving you a hypothetical situation where you can experience brake fade w/o racing.

everybody's commute is different though man...i used to have a long hill with a red light at the bottom that everybody would drag their brakes down. In my old car that had way better brakes than this camry i would have a ton of brake fade when i had to stop at the stop light...got new pads and slotted rotors, and no more brake fade. another good thing about slotted is it gives you better initial bite in the rain/snow. That was also noticeable on my other car. I haven't experienced brake fade w/ this camry yet. But 100% your not hurting your braking performance by going w/ slotted.
 
#38 ·
Well, I like the performance & extra ability to avoid hitting a deer that is jumping in front of me.

I had difficulties going back to OEM setup when I traded in my old tC when I bought my old xB. I like the looks of them when you have them paired with rims.

EBC redstuff pads are anti-brake dust so you're wheels are always clean. Which is always a pain to deal with when cleaning.
 
#39 ·
I found Frozenrotors.com to be the best as they offer factory as well as upgraded rotors should you want that have been cryogenitcally frozen making them much more resistant to fade, warp, and wear.

Has anyone done the Highlander Rotor on the Gen 7 yet?
 
#40 ·
Does anybody know if the highlander brakes will bolt on like they do the 6th gen? I know the pads are the same for the 6th and 7th gen so it leads me to believe that they will work but I'm not sure.
 
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I still can not figure out if Gen 6 and Gen 7 front rotors are the same; some sources say they are, others -they are not. Some listings good for Gen7 only, others -for Gen 7 and 6...
:dunno:

I'm pretty set on these rotors:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/390712235510?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
but they are listed for 2011 and below camry only.
This model (same brand/same seller) listed for 2007-2011 and 2012+ camry
http://www.ebay.com/itm/370631121886?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
Don't really see any difference between these two besides the price...
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