I like the new Fram Ultra Synthetic (etc etc) rated for 15,000 miles.

 

Before I would trust a filter to go 15K I'd be doing some used oil analysis to make sure the oil would last 15K.

 

Take a look here:

http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/1...01/837553-official-3rd-4th-gen-maintenance-thread-all-you-ever-wanted-know.html

As for me, I use NAPA Gold or Purolator Pure One.

 

I use the Fram 15 K one too since I extend the intervals longer than the older view used to be, along with synthetic oil, too. However, I guess any filter that meets OEM specs is fine.

 

The Fram ULTRA is one of the best filters on the market right now.

I am sure you will get lots of opinions, but here are some facts.


99.9% efficiency at 20 microns and a dirt holding capacity of 15,000 miles.

They also have dual-layer synthetic media which is backed by a metal screen for further reinforcement.

All for less than $9 at Wal-Mart.



The Purolator filters have been experiencing tearing issues as of the past few years. You can read all about this and see the pictures for yourself at Bob Is The Oil Guy website. I choose not to use them anymore.

 

Aside from the Fram fanboys ranting there is no problem with Purolator filters. The ranters have YET to come up with a documented case of engine damage due to a Puro, unlike Fram, (the first cut open your oil filter website was started by a guy who lost a MOPAR engine to a shredded OCOD.) OCOD- (orange can of death). You will not see a more cheaply constructed wretch of a filter than a cardboard endcap Fram. Lots of filters cut open on BITOG, and comments like "That Pure One looks like a tear COULD develop, maybe, somewhere" from the Framboys who ignore the same signs on a cut open Fram. Meanwhile, I've run two I4 Camrys hundreds of thousands of miles on Puro filters. That being said, Fram admits by implication that they know what a good filter needs, their Ultra filter construction demonstrates that.

 

As Celica XX said, there are lots of opinions. I have heard that the Fram Ultra was very popular now.


On my car I only use the Amsoil 15K synthetic media filters (I think they're made by Donaldson). Sometimes, if I'm working on a family member's car and need a filter the same day, I'll get a Wix filter, which are very good mid-priced filters. Wix also makes the XP filter, which goes for 15K miles, but I've heard that they have a horrible efficiency rating (something like 50%). The regular Wix filter is good, though.


Even the cheap-o Super Tech Wal-Mart filters are supposed to be not bad at all for the price you pay. I've got one on my Kawasaki powered lawnmower engine (which uses the same filter as a Gen 9 Corolla). I'm gonna go with Wix next time, though, for the lawnmower filter. No need for a 15K mile filter on the lawnmower since I change the oil once a year.


I've also used Mobil 1, Purolator Pure One, and K&N oil filters and they have been fine. The K&N was kind of convenient since it has a nut welded on the cap so you can just use a regular wrench to remove or install it.

 

Just plain old OEM Toyota 90915-YZZF2. I buy them by the case and they have not failed me yet in 21 years. Drain plug NEVER has any metal bits or sludge on it.
W95c

 

How much is a case?

 

Wix oil filter. Good for conventional motor oils.

 

http://smile.amazon.com/Lubricheck-Motor-Oil-Tester-Instantly/dp/B00HBAG9AC?sa-no-redirect=1

It has good reviews, and I read reviews on other websites about it...

 

It has good reviews,

Thanks for the link. I read a few reviews but did not see any that compared it to a Blackstone or other oil analysis. Seems most of its test is A/F or fuel, OK to know but I'm not sure how accurate the TBN is with led lights.

Also no metals content (not expected for that price). These can be helpful when compared to "universal averages" that Blackstone provides.

If you get it take a sample for the tester and for Blackstone. Then compare the two.

 

The one they sell in Wal-Mart I think it's called Fram

 

I am definitely no Fram "fanboy" ... I've used way more Purolator filters in the past decades over anything else.

I'm just not going to use a filter that has a propensity to tear.

My personal standard is WAY higher than, "well, Purolator hasen't killed a motor yet..."

 

I'm not going to use a filter type that tore, trashed a MOPAR engine, and caused it's user to start the first cut open oil filter website, and it isn't BITOG. Did you READ my post or are you more interested in making wise remarks?

 

Not a Fram "fanboy" either, but based on personal experience and others on this forum, and reviews, the ultra synthetic fram filters are nothing like the old orange ones.

 

the ultra synthetic fram filters are nothing like the old orange ones.

Fram took a hit, at least on perceived quality and lost a lot of market share. When I was growing up Fram was all we used, then it was anything but Fram.

The "Ultra" is an attempt to get back some business. It may be a great filter.

 

Oppss wrong post.

 

Did Fram actually discontinue the orange? Seems like the cheap Extra Guard are actually still available at Walmart; it's just that they recently came out with the new Fram Ultra Synthetic tier.

Fram Ultra is a buck or two more expensive than the Purolator PureOne filters that I normally use. But because it's so hard for me to actually get my hands on PureOne filters, I'll probably be switching over to the Fram Ultra just because it's much easier for me to get to a Walmart than a PepBoys.

 

Also, if you're interested in the Fram Ultra Synthetic, Walmart.com is having a small sale right now on the XG4967 for $7.94 + tax.

http://www.walmart.com/ip/FRAM-Ultra-Synthetic-Oil-Filter-XG4967/16878929

Buy it online and you can pick it up at your local store for free. If you buy directly at retail without online site, you don't get the discounted price.

 

Ive used mobil 1 synthetic oil and mobil 1 filters for about past 7/8 years without issue and my car is in the 200k club. I still change my oil every 3500 miles give or take..

Or you can go with Napa Gold filters aka WIX filters.

 

I use Denso filters :thumbsup:

 

I'd like to see one cut open, next oil change I'm going to slice open the Toyota filter to have a look.

 

HERE is a good thread on filter comparisons.

 

I debate this topic every time I do an oil change. I don't run long intervals and hate spending 8 bucks or more on a filter, but sometimes that's the only option.

Wix filters are 8 bucks and change, Oreilly's is the only source in this area. These are what I've been using.

Purolator Pureone is not available in this area. Walmart carries the Bosch D+(same filter) but they are over 10 bucks.

I won't run classic Purolators because of the media tearing issues, or Fram OCOD because of the poor build quality.

Our local WM started carrying SuperTech filters, and dropped Purolator. They seem to be decent enough for a short OCI, and they're less than 3 bucks. Supposedly made by the company that owns Wix and Purolator. I have one on my bike already, will probably start using them on my car too.

 

Supertech is made by Champion labs on the same production line as STP, AC Delco, and other cheap filters.
Construction is even worse than Fram, with fiber endplates, and a plastic "cage" core support with large openings that has failed and allowed the media to collapse into the core on a few occasions.

Personally, I use only Toyota OEM filters if available.
If not, my 2nd choice is Bosch (same line as Purolator now, used to be Champion before they went to the new design).
3rd choice is the Pure-One, which is as good as the Mobil-1 but half the price, and finally Mobil-1.

 

Supertech is made by Champion labs on the same production line as STP, AC Delco, and other cheap filters.
Construction is even worse than Fram, with fiber endplates, and a plastic "cage" core support with large openings that has failed and allowed the media to collapse into the core on a few occasions.

Personally, I use only Toyota OEM filters if available.
If not, my 2nd choice is Bosch (same line as Purolator now, used to be Champion before they went to the new design).
3rd choice is the Pure-One, which is as good as the Mobil-1 but half the price, and finally Mobil-1.

The latest Supertech filters are most definitely not an E-core. They look identical to Pro Series filters, which are made by Wix.

 

I use Toyota Denso filters and Micro Guard.

 

Yeah, I don't know why Purolator is having that problem. Looks like they should put more pleats near the joint. Toyota filters have a low efficiency but that's probably still ok.

For V6 I'd just go with Motorcraft FL400s from Walmart.

For I4 the Motorcraft FL910s or PureOne PL10241 (standard V6 size) is oversized, so make sure the 4-cyl doesn't drain oil as many of them do after shutdown.An oversized filter just takes longer to fill back up.

You can also buy these filters on rockauto and use the 5% discount code in the stick section.

 

Yeah, I don't know why Purolator is having that problem. Looks like they should put more pleats near the joint.

On my car if you install a Purolator Classic, the car takes longer for the oil pressure to build. If you put the miroguard in, it builds almost instant.
That's my picky car.

 

Is there a bigger oversized filter available for the 3rd gen 2.2?

 

See: Official 3rd and 4th Gen Maintenance Thread. All you ever wanted to Know!!!! for oversized filter part #s.

 

Older Camrys used a larger filter than the wimpy PL14476 size and the later, slightly larger PL14477 (which I'd pick over the 14476). The old filter is more similar to the Motorcraft FL910s/PL10241, but the gasket is smaller and sits more in the middle of the flange. I don't think they make the larger I4 filter any more.

 

I'm not aware of any plastic cores in Motorcraft filters. IMO Motorcraft filters are some of the best values out there. For the V6 engine and the 2AZ 2.4L you can use them, many already have. The 5S has oil drain back problems in some engines, probably due to the balancer assembly. For those probably stick to a smaller filter like PL14477.

 

110k oil change this week:
- Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30
- Fram Ultra Synthetic filter XG4967
(15K OCI, 99% at 20 microns with metal supported dual synthetic layer media)

Q #1. Given the above choices, what oil change interval is recommended for maximum engine life given Toyota's recall years ago for potential sludge issues in the 5SFE?

I've previously used Castrol High-Mileage synthetic blend or Mobil 1 when on sale.

I've been using only Genuine Toyota/Denso oil filters for decades in all our cars without any issues. However, I wanted to buy a filter that would last as long as fully-synthetic oil. Bosch Distance Plus $12, Fram Ultra Synthetic $8 at WM. They don't currently offer Purolator PureOne.

Q #2. Has the Fram Ultra Synthetic oil filter proven to be reliable and not another dreaded "OCOD"?

Per: Official 3rd and 4th Gen Maintenance Thread. All you ever wanted to Know!!!!
- 5SFE Stock: 90915-YZZF2
- 5SFE Oversize oil filter: 90915-YZZF1

Per the Fram competitor cross-reference search:
90915-YZZF2 = PH4967 / XG4967
Anti-Drain Valve YES, Gasket I.D. 2.19" Gasket O.D. 2.44" Gasket Thickness .19" Gasket Usage Base, Product Height 2.92" Product I.D. 3/4-16 Th'd, Product O.D. 2.69" Relief Valve Setting 14 PSI
Applications:

• 4-2.0L F/inj. (16V) DOHC 3SFE [1991-1988]
• 4-2.2L F/inj. (16V) DOHC 5S-FE [2001-1992]
• 4-2.2L F/inj. (16V) DOHC CNG 5S-FNE [2001-2000]

90915-YZZF1 = PH4386 / XG4386
Anti-Drain Valve YES Gasket I.D. 2.25" Gasket O.D. 2.5" Gasket Thickness .28" Gasket Usage Base, Product Height 3.47" Product I.D. 3/4-16 Th'd, Product O.D. 2.69" Relief Valve Setting 14 PSI

However, the only Fram Camry application for PH4386 is:
4-2.4L F/inj. (16V) DOHC 2AZ-FE [2009-2002]

Q #3. Has anyone tried the longer XG4386 on a Gen4 Camry?