87 octane (in Oklahoma that is regular) and 100% gas - when I'm out of state generally use 10% ethanol because it is easier to find -, I don't "shop" for gas

Bill

 

Dealer stated that Toyota recommends regular 87 octane gas!

 

Just stick with what is in the manual or use what you want. There are more than plenty of debate threads about fuel octane.

 

Gasoline, not diesel

 

manual does state to use a tier one gas 87 octane

 

Wondering what you would recommend for my Mum who's 87 and just got a new Hybrid. She won't drive it a ton so I'm worried about bad gas. I was thinking of having her fuel when hits 1/4 tank and only add 5 to 7 gallons. Or maybe better to add stabilizer? Or both?

 

It wouldn't hurt to the add fuel stabilizer.

 

Regular, that's why I liked this over the Lexus Nx.

 

Regular.

 

Gas is good for 1-2 YEARS if in a sealed, air tight container. Think your hybrid is a sealed container? You bet it is. Great expense has gone into making these newer vehicles "zero evaporative emissions". That means, air tight.

Don't mess around with stabilizers in any modern car. Save it for your old boat and snowmobiles.

Same for ethanol. In the 10% zone it WILL NEVER SEPARATE. No worries there.

 

Living in the North East, LI. NY specifically, there is seasonal gas being shipped to all the stations, probably explains the lower mileage per tankful in the fall/winter months. Spring time the numbers jump up dramatically per tank.
87 octane/Regular is all I need, spending $$ on premium is just wasted $$. Detergents/additives are in all grades, octane # is only important/ required for higher compression engines typically in sports oriented cars. Computers usually detune the engine if it sees early detonation. My new ‘88 Honda Accord 4cyl req 87 octane but in the summer months w/ the AC on it started pinging like castanets, the dealer said looks like you’ll need to go up one grade from ‘87. Nice !
It’s my opinion this ethanol blending for many years now is a scam and the latest new green deal philosophy put out by the EPA are screwing us royally. Reminds me of the first generation of catalytic converters that GM used on the Chevy Camaro’s, ‘78 Z/28- huge, heavy and very inefficient wasters of fuel, that hinder performance in the name of clean air. That was all BS too, as a performance oriented hot rodder I removed all emissions devices and when inspection time came the car was put thru it’s scans, the tail pipe sniffer etc, I had all my print outs saying I was well under the mandated limits that were required in NYS. Bottom line, I had my cake and could eat it too. !! And on leaded gas no less. Over the years automotive engineering started evolving emission systems- 3way cat con systems actually improved the fuel efficiency with computer controls, and myriad sensors but also adding complexity to our mandated vehicles.
I had my fun altho I missed the peak of Chevys high HP engines in 1970. The writing was on the wall for the future, detuned corporate mandated emissions, that regulations killed off anything with high HP plus insurance companies were redlining cars that were performance oriented.
It’s All about the $$$$. Greed & Corruption.
Mandate this EPA🖕🏼lol.

 

87 octane. Waste of money for anything higher.

 

I likely predate virtually everyone on this forum. I remember being in the local Chevrolet dealership when the 1st modern passenger car was introduced claiming a 0-60 time of <10 secs - 1955 Belaire, 2dr HT, 3-sp/OD , pwrpac (4-barrel). Note: I was there also on Oct 15, 1956 when the 57 BelAire was introduced also.

In 1965, I got a 271 hp , hi per 289 ‘65 Mustang that I raised up to the 306 hp specs. R&T tested the highest performance 65/66 Mustang (271 hp/4-sp) and got 7.5 sec 0-60 and , I believe, 1/4 mi in 16.1. My Venza will do about that. The Mustang got 14 on the highway on 100 octane. Plugs and points every 3-5 K miles. While I was in college in 1965, there was a local gas war that went on for months. 22.9 and 24.9 instead of the standard 26.9/28.9.

The mid 70s - 90s were some pretty grim years for engine efficiency but consider now that the Accord, Camry, Avalon all have sub 6 sec 0-60 versions that actually get >30 highway mpg with virtually no maintenance for >100 K miles.

Then, there’s the Rav4 Prime! We’ve come a long way!

 

Agreed. I experienced 95% of yours having graduated in 1971. Those were the days.

 

152 ci/176 hp gas engine. Total hybrid hp 219 hp. Thats 1.16 hp per ci! And the Venza/Rav4 2.5 engine gets the highest efficiency of fuel energy (41%) of all gas engines. And on 87 octane ! The hybrid addition brings it to 1.44 hp/ci! The Highlander version is close (40%).
And thats net hp, not the more inflated or optimistic brake hp ratings used in the 50s and 60s when horse power was in the .5-.75 hp/ci. And a very few would claim 1.0 brake hp /ci. My 271 hp Mustang out of 289 ci, was a maintenance hog (fortunately, I could do all my own). 14 mpg.
I marvel at how a Toyota hybrid (and even non-hybrids) can be so maintenance free, so efficient, so long lasting, have such great performance. Having owned some high performance cars of the 50s,60s and 70s (including BMWs and Mercedes) at just how far we’ve come.
The ”good ‘ol days” are now. The other is just nostalgia.

 

152 ci/176 hp gas engine. Total hybrid hp 219 hp. Thats 1.16 hp per ci! And the Venza/Rav4 2.5 engine gets the highest efficiency of fuel energy (41%) of all gas engines. And on 87 octane ! The hybrid addition brings it to 1.44 hp/ci! The Highlander version is close (40%).
And thats net hp, not the more inflated or optimistic brake hp ratings used in the 50s and 60s when horse power was in the .5-.75 hp/ci. And a very few would claim 1.0 brake hp /ci. My 271 hp Mustang out of 289 ci, was a maintenance hog (fortunately, I could do all my own). 14 mpg.
I marvel at how a Toyota hybrid (and even non-hybrids) can be so maintenance free, so efficient, so long lasting, have such great performance. Having owned some high performance cars of the 50s,60s and 70s (including BMWs and Mercedes) at just how far we’ve come.
The ”good ‘ol days” are now. The other is just nostalgia.

So true we have come along way !
I fondly look upon those early, transformative years for me and automobiles in general. Even looking upon YT videos of low mileage 78 Z/28’s or ones fully restored to original OEM specs makes me think about those days, but I don’t miss being a slave to the maintenance to keep it running as a stop light racer. I have hung up my wrenches, jacks & ramps so I can just enjoy driving in “luxury”. Checking oil is also almost a non issue w/Venza’s, I spend more time removing bird droppings from the painted surfaces, so the newest car washes have spared me the need to do that as well. Truly maintenance free, in many ways. Cranking the tunes in that JBL 9 spkr system w/sub has me smiling, and I have a Tri-amp rack system from years ago that if I want can be installed if the urge should grab me. 😏

 

Back to the OP... Costco (since it's top tier) regular.

But, when I visited Salt Lake City, I filled up at Costco, but 85 AKI. As I returned home towards sea level, a fill up with 91 AKI, then back to 87