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2005 Sienna tried to kill my kid! Locks malfunctioning dangerously

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#1 ·
I unlocked the doors to my Sienna with my fob, placed my keys next to the car seat, and buckled my 1yr old in his seat, then closed the door. (I typically wouldn’t do this but had stuff I didn’t want trampled and wanted to prevent my other kids from getting in that side.) I then went around to the other side to open the other slider and found that it, and all the doors were locked.
15 minutes and a 911 call later (it was 85 and the van had been in the sun for an hour already), police opened the driver’s door. I was embarrassed and felt awful that I had managed to lock him in the car. Until...the police officer hit the unlock toggle. The doors responded as if he hit lock. The locks clicked and jumped but stayed locked. So he hit lock. Same. Unlock. Same. Doors stayed locked. I tried. Same refusal to unlock. I climbed in through the front seat and pulled my son out. (He was fine.)
After we started the car the doors finally unlocked. Then, they wouldn’t lock. Pressing the lock button, they’d lock and immediately unlock. Then I closed the door they would lock or unlock properly, but if I opened the door they would not stay locked. I drove home and the locks then functioned properly.
I don’t even know what to fix here? Obviously I’ll be more careful and not let anyone in the car with the doors closed even unlocked, but this is extremely dangerous.
 
#2 ·
Sounds very scary, and I'm sorry to hear that you and your son had to go thru this.

What's at fault? Unfortunately, you are dealing with microprocessor control on a 14 year old vehicle. I wouldn't trust a desktop in my home to work reliably and consistently after 14 years of hard use. And that's in a relatively controlled environment. But we expect those same electronic components to still work perfectly when exposed to huge temp and humidity changes, vibration, corrosion, etc. As an engineer, I'd say they are well beyond their warranty!

Not minimizing your situation, but this is totally out of the control of Toyota or their suppliers given the age.
 
#6 · (Edited)
I thought it was just the key fob. If the buttons in the car are acting "the same" as in weird, all that can be done is a lot of electrical diagnosis to determine what the issue is.

I'm not sure how your key fob is or if you have a physical key. I know on my moms 2013 Sienna she has the smart key fob but it also has a physical key inside of it (for emergencies I assume).
 
#5 ·
Understand, and I have no vested interest in defending Toyota. Just stating a position as an engineer and car guy.

Could it be the remote? Possible. But from the way you describe it, I'd be looking at the Body ECU. With each generation of vehicle you find less and less real point-to-point wiring. Everything uses local area networking. The master switch assembly on the drivers door sends a signal to the ECU, and that sends a signal to each door lock. The system glitched. You could try disconnecting the car battery, step on the brake (to discharge the system), and then re-initialize (typically cycling the locks with the door switch, and then with the fob should do it). It's like pulling the battery pack from your hung-up laptop to regain control. The most forceful of reboots!
 
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#7 ·
It was the physical button on the driver’s door that was acting that way. I only pushed the key fob button once When I was getting into the car. It’s an old school one, just a little thing with a door open button and a lock button and unlock button, plus an alarm. The door open button doesn’t work though because our electric door went the way of all sienna sliding doors a few months ago. I will definitely try the battery reset.
 
#8 ·
I am by no means saying this could be your issue. But i had a dodge caliber once. The locks were going haywire. I replaced driver switch and everything. No change. I then tried putting new battery in key fob and right away noticed a difference. My issue was fixed. A 4 dollar battery solved issue. So i would have to agree with them try cheap first and change battery or put known good battery in key fob.


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