Doesn't surprise me, according to gcbc, 2020 sales dipped below 20k units, and this year it might not even break 10k: Toyota Avalon Sales Figures
On the plus side, there's a slight chance our Avalon's might become classics

 

Shame.

 

It's just business.

 

That blows. I was going to trade in for a 22. Not sure now. Are most of the parts are the same as the Camry? Or do you guys think I could run into issues down the road if I kept it long term and it needed repairs?

 

Toyota supports parts for its models long after they are discontinued, I don't think this is much different than a generational change where most parts do not carry over. I'm not sure mechanically, but at least with body panels and interior parts, I'm pretty sure it is not interchangeable with the Camry. For long term repairs, I guess it depends where you get the parts from. As mentioned before, Toyota will support a discontinued model for years, sometimes even restarting parts production after they stopped. However, due to the relatively low Avalon sales coupled with its short 4 year run, junkyard parts will be harder to find.

 

This is sad news, especially because the Avalon has become such a cool car. And Toyota even made a TRD version!
I hope the Camry and Corolla will continue to stay around for a long time. It’s a tough sell when SUV’s like the RAV4 have become more fuel efficient. It’s evident that Toyota puts a lot of effort into aerodynamics, and a sedan should usually have less drag than a SUV. All the little aero stuff on my Corolla Hatchback is cool to see. So I hope [emoji1696] that sedans and hatchbacks will always have a place.


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This is sad news, especially because the Avalon has become such a cool car. And Toyota even made a TRD version!
I hope the Camry and Corolla will continue to stay around for a long time. It’s a tough sell when SUV’s like the RAV4 have become more fuel efficient. It’s evident that Toyota puts a lot of effort into aerodynamics, and a sedan should usually have less drag than a SUV. All the little aero stuff on my Corolla Hatchback is cool to see. So I hope

that sedans and hatchbacks will always have a place.

I don't see the Corolla and Camry going anywhere since they are global nameplates that carry a lot of weight with mainstream buyers. There will still be a market for them, albeit shrinking at least here in the US, but yeah, the full size sedan market was honestly dying even before the 2019 Avalon came out. There still is a sizeable segment of buyers that like the feel of the sedans.

 

Guess my next car will be an ES

 

What? Get a Supra...

 

Not surprised at all, I was expecting this and why I didn't wait for any 2022's to show up at the dealerships, while my trade in depreciated. I bought(last month) a 2021 Limited trim with all the options I wanted. My guess is if you want a 'Toyota' full size sedan in the future, just buy a Lexus ES350, since it was being made at the same Georgetown plant anyway. But you'll pay the Lexus premium for the packages, and the MSRP will be north of 50K. The loaded Avalon's were about 45K MSRP anyway. It is what it is...

 

Damn, that kinda sucks. Even though I don't even live in the US–I really liked the Avalon. Fantastic looking car, especially the XSE and the TRD.

Poor sales, i'm assuming?

 

I love my '21 XSE....

 

Well this makes sense, even though i LOVE my '19 XSE i want to go with a RAV4 Prime. Faster, way better MPG, and can go off road down fire trails and forest roads for camping.
plus can fit big things in that back.
^^^ And all that is why all large Sedans are failing.

 

Well this makes sense, even though i LOVE my '19 XSE i want to go with a RAV4 Prime. Faster, way better MPG, and can go off road down fire trails and forest roads for camping.
plus can fit big things in that back.
^^^ And all that is why all large Sedans are failing.

Same for me, I would have got the RAV4 Prime if it was available, probably be my next car.

 

Mine doesn't get driven a lot (~16k in almost 3 years) since I work from home and have for years, but I drove mine again today, for about and hour, and it just reminded me again what a nice, comfortable vehicle it is. I wanted to buy a Venza but couldn't wait for the new one to come out back in late 2018, and the Highlander just didn't do it for me. I even waited to drive the "New" Rav4 before we bought the Avalon.

 

I'm glad to have bought two 2021 Avalons (Touring and XSE Hybrid). You can't beat the ride comfort. You can keep the SUVs. If I want to ride high, I use my Ford F150. If I want to ride low, I use my 370Z.

 

I bought a 2021 Avalon XLE Hybrid 3 months ago. Glad I bought it. I’m 83 I think this Avalon will outlive me.

 

“The automaker even launched an eyebrow-raising Avalon TRD model two years ago—a car as surprising for its decent driving dynamics as for its boy-racer body addenda. Let's just say an Avalon wearing a spoiler, hot wheels, and huge front intakes is like a grandparent rolling into Thanksgiving dinner with piercings, spiked hair, and leather chaps. Good for them, but you'd be stupefied.”

C’mon, Motor Trend, the fifth-generation Avalon is not like this. I’m not the biggest TRD fan out there, but this isn’t fair.

Another Sedan Slain! Toyota Avalon Buried After 2022

Pour one out for another dead full-size sedan.

www.motortrend.com

 

I hate what Motor Trend has become. They suck. [emoji1]


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Truly a sad thing.
I've got a long time 🤞 before I'll be in need of a replacement. I guess I'll need to find an alternate large sedan when the time eventually does come. By then it'll probably be electric 😉

 

Wow was thinking oh buying one over the ES 350 because of the rear fold down seats and the infotainment system with actual buttons. I always liked the design of the dashboard

 

These were two big deciding factors for me as well - maybe Lexus will modify the design and remove the pass-through in lieu of a rear fold down seat. Just this weekend moving some cornhole boards made me appreciate the ability to fold down the seats so I can drive without the annoying trunk open warning beep going off incessantly. As far as entertainment system, I find I use the mode button on the steering wheel a lot more than I thought I would...I think I could "live" with the Lexus system if pressed.
But that won't matter, I've realized that going from a pick-up to a car was something I wasn't prepared for and I have been longing for the practically that a truck provides since I sold it off. Next vehicle is going to be something that can haul things (whether a truck or mid to large SUV) and the wife will inherit the Avalon.

 

After 26 years of bringing quiet, big-car comfort and Old Faithful-like reliability to the masses, Toyota will cease production of its Avalon sedan in 2022. Source: harrogate man van removals

 

:-( :-( :-(

I don't know, this news makes me really sad. I mean I'm not surprised but still.

If one want a large, comfortable, and RELIABLE sedan, where do you turn to?

The ES thanks to the Lexus styling has less interior cabin and trunk space. Of course, you have the extra price premium of the Lexus brand.

I would like to be a fly on the wall when Toyota management discusses the failure of the Avalon.

Was this just strictly a case of market forces at work? Everyone and their brother (except me it seems) wants a CUV/SUV. Has the Avalon strayed too far from its "reliable creampuff" roots alienating those who would traditionally buy such a car? A combo of the two?

I'm glad it lives on in China. As of 2020, 111,515 were sold over there vs 18,421 over here. Large sedans seem to do fine over there.

Interestingly enough, you can get the Avalon with the M20A 2.0 Corolla engine and CVT in China. I couldn't even imagine how the large sedan would drive with that set up as the 5th gen gained quite a bit of weight over the 4th gen.

The Camry XLE V6 would be the logical replacement it seems to me for those who don't want to pay the premium for the ES350.

I love my 4th gen more than you can imagine. I hate driving, but I love driving it. I'm taking it to the grave!

 

If you want a large, comfortable, reliable sedan today, I think you need to try out some of these new SUVs with an open mind. I can’t believe I’m going to say this, a longtime despiser of SUVs, but I’m shocked at how much I really like my wife’s new 2021 Hyundai Santa Fe Limited. Her old CR-V was so “meh,” but this thing is stylish and drives beautifully. If only it came with the Toyota 3.5 V6, wow, but the turbo 2.5 in it will get up and go.

Reliable? Remains to be seen. Consumer Reports gives it an above average predicted reliability rating, but several models in the recent past (2013-2014) had engine and other issues. We took a chance on Hyundai for the first time with this, but we’re in a fortunate position to be able to dump and replace it if need be, despite the crazy car prices right now.

 

ICE, hybrid or electric doesn't make much difference to me. I'm more concerned about overall comfort and interior quality. All modern electric cars have rental grade interiors, even a 120K Taycan I’ve seen has a low quality interior considering the price tag.
I guess I'm not ready to pay for "Greta's dream" yet and stick with ICE cars for as long as possible. And after all eco friendly electric car production is pretty dirty and the electricity production is not that green either. If I knew about chip shortage I would’ve bought a F-150 two years ago when Ford was doing 10-12K off on them.

 

No doubt auto journalists use controversy to drive readership, and we all take their opinions with a grain of salt. Here’s the Jalopnik send-off:

Dead: America's Stupidest Best Car, The Toyota Avalon

No car feels more like getting away with something dumb like a V6 Avalon.

jalopnik.com

 

MotorTrend is one of the worst auto journals if you ask me. All they do is bash cars over little things, and their opinions are clearly bought. Does anyone remember back in 2019 (I think it was 2019?) when they chose a Jeep with a ONE STAR SAFETY RATING to be "car of the year"? Tell me that's honest.

I like Car and Driver. They seem to be much more honest in their reviews.

I'm sad to see the Avalon go, but not surrpised. My boyfriend's brother has a 2006 Avalon, and it has one of the most comfortable rides I've ever felt.

 

I like Car and Driver. They seem to be much more honest in their reviews.

I miss Tony Swan. He wasn't for everybody, but I liked him. A straight-shooter who treated people as they deserved. He didn't expect perfection, but he expected your best; and if your best wasn't as good as you liked, he didn't mind because it was your best.

 

I bought a brand new last generation Cressida 30 years ago, I will do the similar, collect a Avalon next year while own a Avalon now.

motor trend, car and drive, ..., who cares?

 

6 Avalons, and if not for my wife's medical condition (Needing a lot more room for medical gear when we travel), I would have purchased my 7th one this year. While not what I wanted in later years - still the best option for me. I for one would have loved it if they keep going down the path of Old Geezers car i.e., a bit bigger, a lot more comfortable, quieter … but Buick wasn't bring back the Park Avenue (3 of those before starting buying Avalons), so it was Avalons for me.

Went with the highlander Limited, and while we like it a lot, it's no Avalon. I guess it's one way to get folks to purchase ES's. It will be interesting to see if in fact happens and how many.

And to this list add: 2 Camry's, 1 RAV 4, 1- 4Runner and 2 Tercels. Toyota has had the lion's share of cars I've owned (some 50+ over the past 55 years of driving)

NEVER, EVER a major repair to any of them. Some ended up with more miles on them then others, but all trouble free.

 

Does this mean that there is a possibility for a Camry Touring grade?

 

Does this mean that theres a possibility for a Camry Touring grade?

Ya, but it'll be the same as the current XSE

 

AVS in the camry would be dope.

 

Services will be private. No flowers please.

 

It is a shame to see the Avalon go away. It says a lot about what people and companies value these days; however, I think it is more about how companies push the market to make more money, rather than giving people what they want. Companies found that they can push more profitable products by de-contenting, making less desirable and cancelling products that are a better value to the consumer, i.e. make the Avalon cheaper, less comfortable and less desirable, thereby increasing sales of the more profitable Highlander.

That is why my 2013 TAHL is probably the last Toyota I will own. My 2018 Cadillac XT5 is much more comfortable and runs better than the Lexus RX350 I compared it to when I purchased it, and the XT5 has been as reliable as a Lexus/Toyota. The replacement for my 2013 Avalon is probably going to be a Tesla Model S or other similar high end EV. Toyota is doing well now, but I think Toyota is going to have difficulty making the transition from ICE to BEV. Toyota fought BEVs for years and is now behind other car manufacturers in that race to the future.